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Re: CDE Open Sourced

#31

Post by perlgeek »

owyn wrote: post #14
barbs wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pardon my ignorance, but what's wrong with SourceForge? Is it simply not as popular as other open-source project sites?

Sourceforge was great back in the day when it was the only (?) option for public code hosting besides running your own site, but it's not as "cool" now... it feels like most projects have left, only abandoned projects remain. Putting a "new" project there seems strange. I don't know if that's due to functionality or not though, maybe it's just that the UI feels dated. Even with free offerings, people pay attention to…

There are valid reasons not to use sourceforge.

You know, each sf project can have a "homepage" link, and I once spent half an hour searching for where to change it. I kid you not.

I have searched for 10 minutes on how to reply to a bug report and attach a patch. I gave up in the end.

I'm still the owner of a dead project on sourceforge. I've tried several times to delete that project, but there was always something that prevented me from doing it (I don't recall, I think the project had a mailing list, and I didn't have permission to delete the mailing list, and I couldn't delete the project without first deleting the mailing list. Or something.).

sourceforge simply isn't usable. The makers know that, which is why they do a big redesign/relaunch every two years or so -- but each one makes it worse.

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#32

Post by noselasd »

barbs wrote: post #12
dlinder wrote: post #9

I read this as: "CDE open sourced..." "...on SourceForge"

Pardon my ignorance, but what's wrong with SourceForge? Is it simply not as popular as other open-source project sites?

* Bog down slow.

* Unhelpful user interface with a bad/non-existing thought to workflow.

* Annoys the user.(You want to download that 30k file, please wait 5..4..3..2..1..).

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#33

Post by apgwoz »

madrona wrote: post #10

Bad memories of writing CS assignments on overtaxed Sun workstations, with that crap WM. I fetishized those expensive purple boxes until I had to use one.

You mean you didn't just use XDM to switch to a different environment like everyone else in the know? I just switched to FVWM, which was my favorite window manager at the time.

Re: CDE Open Sourced

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Post by lmm »

rjsw wrote: post #25
spudlyo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe soon we'll have open source Motif, then I'll finally be able to not give a shit . Funny timing though, I'm pretty sure I saw a Motif app or two on one of the screens at NASA during the Curiosity landing.

What is wrong with Open Motif: http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ ?

If you'd actually read the page you link to you'd see the part where it says "Read the faq for clarifications on the license... such as why Open Motif does not meet the Open Source definition."

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#35

Post by wazoox »

dfc wrote: post #18
madrona wrote: post #10

Bad memories of writing CS assignments on overtaxed Sun workstations, with that crap WM. I fetishized those expensive purple boxes until I had to use one.

SGI Indys were my purple box fetish.

You mean Indigo, the Indy is blue :) (mine doesn't work anymore, alas, but the Octane is doing great).

Re: CDE Open Sourced

#36

Post by testdfsg »

owyn wrote: post #14
barbs wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pardon my ignorance, but what's wrong with SourceForge? Is it simply not as popular as other open-source project sites?

Sourceforge was great back in the day when it was the only (?) option for public code hosting besides running your own site, but it's not as "cool" now... it feels like most projects have left, only abandoned projects remain. Putting a "new" project there seems strange. I don't know if that's due to functionality or not though, maybe it's just that the UI feels dated. Even with free offerings, people pay attention to…

Do you know any alternative to SourceForge?

SourceForge allows to host phpBB, Wordpress, MediaWiki, my custom php code, with gigabytes of disk space.

It's not possible to install all this software on Github or Google Code project.

Re: CDE Open Sourced

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Post by ConstantineXVI »

testdfsg wrote: post #36
owyn wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sourceforge was great back in the day when it was the only (?) option for public code hosting besides running your own site, but it's not as "cool" now... it feels like most projects have left, only abandoned projects remain. Putting a "new" project there seems strange. I don't know if that's due to functionality or not though, maybe it's just that the UI feels dated. Even with free offerings, people pay attention to…

Do you know any alternative to SourceForge? SourceForge allows to host phpBB, Wordpress, MediaWiki, my custom php code, with gigabytes of disk space. It's not possible to install all this software on Github or Google Code project.

Perhaps that's why SourceForge is so bloated; it's trying to wear too many hats. GitHub and Google Code both give you a issue board, wiki, and site host; but it's all integrated and their ops teams don't have to worry about random 3rd-party software going haywire since they own it all.

Re: CDE Open Sourced

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Post by bijupunalor »

Zenst wrote: post #19
rogerbinns wrote: post #11

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You what? I worked on a competitor to CDE. We existed first and were actually compact and fast. When CDE was announced it put a serious dent in our business, but then was vapourware for quite a while so our sales returned. And once available was bloated, ugly and slow. We also had a side business in the graphical toolkit CDE used (Motif). Basically we took the Motif from OSF, fixed bugs and made a whole host of simil…

Sorry to hear CDE hits a nerve with you. Vaugly recall your product from my days at DHL and when we looked at UNIX on the desktop with SCO, but SCO etc priced themselfs out of the market on that one on comparision to windows. So what happened to your GUI today? As for Motif, well OSF is the Open Source Foundation right and if so selling open source, can see how that business model worked out. IIRC your GUI was mostly…

Open Software Foundation (or "Oppose Sun forever"), they were never about "open source" but was a corporate group originally formed to fight AT&T/Sun and later Microsoft/WinNT. Despite millions of dollars investment in R&D and product development, they didn't produce anything of value. They also failed miserably in competing against Windows-NT. Except BSD, none of "traditional UNIX" had much to do with open-source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_v._BSDi

Re: CDE Open Sourced

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Post by abalashov »

Speak for yourselves, I'm excited! Unity and GNOME and all the other useless crap civilisation has invented over the last decade and a half? Get off my lawn!
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