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Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by kridsdale1 »

skydhash wrote: post #15
Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

Why not curate a video repository? I think novelty is actually overrated and even harmful for kid. Deeper exploration on familiar subject may be beneficial as that would let his/her imagination to take on the job of inventing new things.

I did this. I set up a plex server in my home that connects to a NAS which has the full runs of every PBS style kids show that I could find and found good reviews of. Along with classic movies.

Just trying to recreate the media conditions of my youth, with modern content as well as long as it’s “pure”.

I’m also putting me-vetted YouTube content like Kurzgesagt on it.

Re: Kagi for Kids

#32

Post by ziddoap »

doublerabbit wrote: post #30
ziddoap wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "That's what Kagi is aiming for but they can only do so much." Not sure why my argument is void, but you restating my exact point with different words is valid?

Are you expecting a company to manage it completely without human intervention, yourself without verifying the results? If so, you then got to expect what Kagi decides what is bad and what is good and accept that's it. It could be bias it could be not. I like to think they know but I personally would never put all my eggs in one basket.

>Are you expecting a company to manage it completely without human intervention, yourself without verifying the results?

What?

Parent commenter asked if it was guaranteed to block the bad stuff. I answered no. That's the entire conversation summarized.

Then you came in, said I was wrong, and then answered the question with "no", just like I did.

I didn't say anything about my expectations, or what I would do, or how I do it.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by piokoch »

Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

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Re: Kagi for Kids

#34

Post by pants2 »

dcchambers wrote: post #26

Disclaimer: I am a happy paid Kagi subscriber and absolutely am an advocate of their product. I really hope the company makes it work financially because we NEED something like it. I have two young kids of my own (4, almost 2) and have so far been able to avoid the issues of letting them free roam on the net, but it's obviously something that's coming. This was not something I ever paid attention to in my youth but n…

Feels like in my youth the biggest risk was stumbling on some freaky gore/porn that scarred you, but somehow that doesn't seem as bad as the risk of getting hooked on dopamine-optimized brainrot, alt-right propaganda, or micro transaction focused games.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by jmathai »

facile3232 wrote: post #10

Content for kids strikes me as something you'd curate around an experience and value system you sell to parents. I can't imagine anything else would work very well. Granted, this doesn't mean we shouldn't try to build filters. I'm just rather pessimistic about a hands-off experience with such software.

I think curation is the key. I sort of trust Disney to curate content for my kids. I definitely do not trust Youtube to do it.

I don't want my kids to be able to "discover" content. Why is that always the feature? Rhetorical question....I know the answer, engagement and stickiness. I just don't like the answer.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by bsima »

Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

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Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by drcongo »

jmathai wrote: post #27

Kagi seems like a cool company - I'm not a customer yet. I'd like there to be technology companies I can trust - perhaps like Kagi. I have been really happy with NextDNS though. My kids, not so much. But hey ... that's parenting.

Kagi and NextDNS are the two subscriptions I have that I couldn't live without, you should give Kagi a go.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by doublerabbit »

ziddoap wrote: post #32
doublerabbit wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you expecting a company to manage it completely without human intervention, yourself without verifying the results? If so, you then got to expect what Kagi decides what is bad and what is good and accept that's it. It could be bias it could be not. I like to think they know but I personally would never put all my eggs in one basket.

> Are you expecting a company to manage it completely without human intervention, yourself without verifying the results? What? Parent commenter asked if it was guaranteed to block the bad stuff. I answered no. That's the entire conversation summarized. Then you came in, said I was wrong, and then answered the question with "no", just like I did. I didn't say anything about my expectations, or what I would do, or how…

Maybe I am misunderstanding? What is the bad stuff, you want blocked?

OP comment comes off as "I want Kagi to do it for me and to be how I want it" when Kagi doesn't know what you want blocked. How can it? If Kagi is to support blocking why wouldn't they?

I am saying what Kagi wants to block may not be the bad stuff you want blocked and so you should then verify the content of what is blocked.

Re: Kagi for Kids

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Post by daemoens »

piokoch wrote: post #33
Roritharr wrote: post #9

What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids. I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic. Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via h…

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> Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via his short allowed time where he can browse by himself, i'm worried what else is coming his way through it.

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