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Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by sepositus »

sightbroke wrote: post #24
sepositus wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This completely ignores the problem. I shouldn't have to sell my house and move to go to a school I can drive my kids to. But, to answer your confusion, the median house price almost doubles in this area. So it's economically infeasible.

I wonder if there is a correlation with higher priced homes and improved school districts?

I'm not immediately aware of any studies, but I would be shocked if there wasn't a correlation. Low-income families have a higher probability of raising children in a dysfunctional home who then become a burden on the local school district. Respectable teachers then flee these schools for better opportunities. This part isn't conjecture, as I'm recounting personal testimonies of teachers who have come and gone from my town. Whether this is a widespread issue, or how much of the problem it represents, I cannot confirm.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by MengerSponge »

sightbroke wrote: post #24
sepositus wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This completely ignores the problem. I shouldn't have to sell my house and move to go to a school I can drive my kids to. But, to answer your confusion, the median house price almost doubles in this area. So it's economically infeasible.

I wonder if there is a correlation with higher priced homes and improved school districts?

Many American school districts are funded by property taxes, and access to higher quality schools is valuable. It follows that communities with more desirable schools would also have more desirable housing.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by MengerSponge »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #21

One thing I think is interesting about the fascism label is - if you time traveled the US government leadership from 1945 to today, who would they align with more? How would they treat these issues? Or was the US fascist in 1923 when the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind that Indians aren’t white and therefore can’t be granted citizenship? That seems, like, massively more “fascist” than anyth…

1923 Germany wasn't fascist either. 1933 Germany, for what it's worth, liked a lot of things about 1923 America. Nazi eugenics grew from American ideas.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by sepositus »

sightbroke wrote: post #29
FilosofumRex wrote: post #26

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Secularism/atheism is a religion too. It has dogmas on abortion, homosexuality, fornication, usury, adultery, education of children, and hatred towards other religions (as shown by you).

I am not sure secularism is synonymous with atheism. I am pretty sure secular policies would be avoiding advocating or prohibiting for atheism just as it would for any other form of views that fall into religious or faith beliefs.

> Secularism is the principle of seeking to conduct human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion. It is most commonly thought of as the separation of religion from civil affairs and the state and may be broadened to a similar position seeking to remove or to minimize the role of religion in any public sphere.

That's the introduction from Wikipedia, which matches my understanding of the definition. It's not synonymous with atheism. However, given its stated mission of minimizing religion, it seems like it would be relatively unconcerned if atheism were to be treated more favorably.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by tbrownaw »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #18
theGeatZhopa wrote: post #13

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what about every university should get subsidies per student's head-count and let the universities decide what for the money is used? The market will regulate the demand & supply of places and the universities have an incentive to grow and to attract students by quality. If its mormon-university and mormonism happens to be in big-demand, so then its a mormon university that gets subsidies. At least, its in europe mos…

Religious institutions should only be supported by voluntary contributions from those who believe in its mission. No state should ever give money to a religious institution, for any reason, because no state should favor one religion over another. To do so leads to religious authoritarianism, which is a direct precursor to religious segregation and persecution. Money given to the state should only be used for purposes…

Institutions should not be treated differently because they are or aren't associated with a recognized religion.

Really, the government shouldn't be in the business of recognizing religions at all.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by pacomerh »

tonfreed wrote: post #30
judahmeek wrote: post #9

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Do you or do you not acknowledge that Trump's authoritarian tendencies are a threat to democratic institutions?

The entire American political establishment has been on a worrying slide to authoritarianism for most of my life. I remember the flow over here in Australia after 9/11, and the threats that were made on the public if they didn't go along with it. Didn't get any better under Obama, we saw a massive increase in the surveillance state under his tenure. It was incredible how quickly the media dropped the journo wiretappi…

> "The entire American political establishment has been on a worrying slide to authoritarianism for most of my life.

Not like this one. The free speech censorship now is hugely worrying, not to mention the recent inhumane treatment to people for things like a denied Visa. It's pretty bad. I'm not sure people are paying enough attention.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by tbrownaw »

theGeatZhopa wrote: post #13
OgsyedIE wrote: post #5

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As somebody on the other political side, I wouldn't want federal tax dollars going to mormon universities in a vacuum. To prevent more culture war distractions from the faculty's jobs of teaching, I think anybody who can do math can agree that: Either every university should get subsidies proportional to the effectiveness of their graduates or no universities should get any subsidies at all.

what about every university should get subsidies per student's head-count and let the universities decide what for the money is used? The market will regulate the demand & supply of places and the universities have an incentive to grow and to attract students by quality. If its mormon-university and mormonism happens to be in big-demand, so then its a mormon university that gets subsidies. At least, its in europe mos…

> what about every university should get subsidies per student's head-count and let the universities decide what for the money is used?

From what I understand it usually works better to pay for results rather than effort.

Re: Yale professor who studies fascism fleeing US to work in Canada

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Post by tbrownaw »

MengerSponge wrote: post #32
sightbroke wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there is a correlation with higher priced homes and improved school districts?

Many American school districts are funded by property taxes, and access to higher quality schools is valuable. It follows that communities with more desirable schools would also have more desirable housing.

> Many American school districts are funded by property taxes

This is a red herring. Local taxes are not the only source of funding, and state / federal finding is deliberately allocated in a way that makes up the difference. Or iirc often more than makes up the difference.

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