> Think of MCP like a USB-C port for AI applications. That analogy may be helpful for mom, but not for me as a software engineer.
You spend time with some weirdly technical moms.
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Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
That article seems to miss the point by being incurious about _why_ there is hype around MCP instead of LangChain, LangGrah, SmolAgents, LlamaIndex, etc. We've had tool call frameworks before, but we haven't had a way of making tools that our clients actually talked to. There was no way to build tools that other people could download and run locally without getting them to switch to a client that baked those tools in…
> That article seems to miss the point by being incurious about _why_ there is hype around MCP instead of LangChain, LangGrah, SmolAgents, LlamaIndex, etc. The VCs that were invested in AI companies (like Cursor) would of course need to hype something up like MCPs to get us to build them as little of those tools did not exist. Cursor already makes $100M+. So why not get behind and integrate this chosen standard to ma…
I too feel it's bad that companies take VC money and build open standards which let me build faster and target more providers. Seriously, what? I struggle to understand the mindset of someone frequenting HN who can say unironically that "getting everyone building" is a bad outcome.
I'd like some more of that getting everyone building please.
Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK
#33I am really struggling with what the value-add is with MCP. It feels like another distraction in the shell game of contemporary AI tech. > MCP is an open protocol that standardizes how applications provide context to LLMs. What is there to standardize? Last I checked, we are using a text-to-text transformer that operates on arbitrary, tokenized strings. Anything that seems fancier than tokens-to-tokens is an illusion…
If you're interested, I'd encourage you to implement an MCP integration and see if you change your mind. For instance, I have a little 'software team in a box' tool. v1 integrated github and three different llms manually (react + python backend). This is fine. You can call github commands via CLI on the backend, and add functionality somewhat easily, depending on the LLM's knowledge. Pain points -- if you want workfl…
Do you have the code available anywhere? I'm working on the same thing to learn how to utilize MCP, I'd love to see how someone else went about it.
Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK
#34> Think of MCP like a USB-C port for AI applications. That analogy may be helpful for mom, but not for me as a software engineer.
I thought this was a "your mom is compatible with everyone" joke
Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK
#35> Think of MCP like a USB-C port for AI applications. That analogy may be helpful for mom, but not for me as a software engineer.
Maybe they used an LLM to explain it. Gemini in particular is obsessed with these utterly useless analogies for everything, when I would prefer something closer to Wikipedia with more context. (Needless to say, I currently don't find LLMs useful for learning about things. That's a shame because that use case feels promising.)
Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK
#36I am really struggling with what the value-add is with MCP. It feels like another distraction in the shell game of contemporary AI tech. > MCP is an open protocol that standardizes how applications provide context to LLMs. What is there to standardize? Last I checked, we are using a text-to-text transformer that operates on arbitrary, tokenized strings. Anything that seems fancier than tokens-to-tokens is an illusion…
If you're interested, I'd encourage you to implement an MCP integration and see if you change your mind. For instance, I have a little 'software team in a box' tool. v1 integrated github and three different llms manually (react + python backend). This is fine. You can call github commands via CLI on the backend, and add functionality somewhat easily, depending on the LLM's knowledge. Pain points -- if you want workfl…
That sounds like v1 was "tool calls llm", while v2 is "llm calls tool"?
The fact that the tool call is via mcp and not in-process function call seems to be an implementation detail?
Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK
#37> Think of MCP like a USB-C port for AI applications. That analogy may be helpful for mom, but not for me as a software engineer.
Because everyone knows the usb-c protocol
Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
That article seems to miss the point by being incurious about _why_ there is hype around MCP instead of LangChain, LangGrah, SmolAgents, LlamaIndex, etc. We've had tool call frameworks before, but we haven't had a way of making tools that our clients actually talked to. There was no way to build tools that other people could download and run locally without getting them to switch to a client that baked those tools in…
> That article seems to miss the point by being incurious about _why_ there is hype around MCP instead of LangChain, LangGrah, SmolAgents, LlamaIndex, etc. The VCs that were invested in AI companies (like Cursor) would of course need to hype something up like MCPs to get us to build them as little of those tools did not exist. Cursor already makes $100M+. So why not get behind and integrate this chosen standard to ma…
MCPs aren't specific to Cursor. Rather, they enable any IDE to become a Cursor competitor.
Example: JetBrains released an MCP server plugin for their IDEs recently and it enables Claude Desktop to seamlessly use the IDE for reading and writing files and even compiling or running tests against it.
And that's just one example; there are MCP servers for anything from VSCode to Emacs already. That means almost anyone can now use LLMs to generate code in their IDE of choice, just as they would do with Cursor.
In fact, MCPs are posing a threat to many startups, especially the "wrapper" ones.
Re: OpenAI adds MCP support to Agents SDK
#40Master Control Program?