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Re: 4o Image Generation

#31
It's incredible that this took 316 days to be released since it was initially announced. I do appreciate the emphasis in the presentation on how this can be useful beyond just being a cool/fun toy, as it seems most image generation tools have functioned.

Was anyone else surprised how slow the images were to generate in the livestream? This seems notably slower than DALLE.

Re: 4o Image Generation

#32

OpenAI's livestream of GPT-4o Image Generation shows that it is slowwwwwwwwww (maybe 30 seconds per image, which Sam Altman had to spin "it's slow but the generated images are worth it"). Instead of using a diffusion approach, it appears to be generating the image tokens and decoding them akin to the original DALL-E ( https://openai.com/index/dall-e/ ), which allows for streaming partial generations from top to botto…

Maybe this is the dialup of the era.

Re: 4o Image Generation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Structural editing and control nets are much more powerful than text prompting alone. The image generators used by creatives will not be text-first. "Dragon with brown leathery scales with an elephant texture and 10% reflectivity positioned three degrees under the mountain, which is approximately 250 meters taller than the next peak, ..." is not how you design. Creative work is not 100% dice rolling in a crude and in…

Yeah, but then it no longer replaces human artists. Controlnet has been the obvious future of image-generation for a while now.

> Yeah, but then it no longer replaces human artists.

Automation tools are always more powerful as a force multiplier for skilled users than a complete replacement. (Which is still a replacement on any given task scope, since it reduces the number of human labor hours — and, given any elapsed time constraints, human laborers — needed.)

Re: 4o Image Generation

#38

This works great for many purposes. One area where it does not work well at all is modifying photographs of people's faces.* Completely fumbles if you take a selfie and ask it to modify your shirt, for example. * = unless the people are in the training set

That's to be expected, no? It's a usian product so it will be a disappointment in all areas where things could get lewd.

Re: 4o Image Generation

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> ChatGPT’s new image generation in GPT‑4o rolls out starting today to Plus, Pro, Team, and Free users as the default image generator in ChatGPT, with access coming soon to Enterprise and Edu. For those who hold a special place in their hearts for DALL·E, it can still be accessed through a dedicated DALL·E GPT. > Developers will soon be able to generate images with GPT‑4o via the API, with access rolling out in the n…

> Tens of thousands of so-called "AI" image generator startups have been obliterated and taking digital artists with them all reduced to near zero. Now you have a widely accessible meme generator with the name "ChatGPT". ChatGPT has already had a that via Dall-E. If it didn't kill those startups when that happened this doesn't fundamentally change anything. Now its got a new image gen model, which — like Dall-E 3 whe…

There are several examples here, especially in the videos that no existing image gen model can do and would require tedious workflows and/or training regimens to replicate, maybe.

It's not 'just' a new model ala Imagen 3. This is 'what if GPT could transform images nearly as well as text?' and that opens up a lot of possibilities. It's definitely a meaningful change.

Re: 4o Image Generation

#40
Edit: Please ignore. They hadn't rolled the new model out to my account yet. The announcement blog post is a bit misleading saying you can try it today.

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Comparison with Leonardo.Ai.

ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/share/67e2fb21-a06c-8008-b297-07681dddee...

ChatGPT again (direct one shot): https://chatgpt.com/share/67e2fc44-ecc8-8008-a40f-e1368d306e...

ChatGPT again (using word "photorealistic instead of "photo"): https://chatgpt.com/share/67e2fce4-369c-8008-b69e-c2cbe0dd61...

Leonardo.Ai Phoenix 1.0 model: https://cdn.leonardo.ai/users/1f263899-3b36-4336-b2a5-d8bc25...

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