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Decent living standards for 8.5B would require 30% of current resource use

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Re: Decent living standards for 8.5B would require 30% of current resource use

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Rich countries are not going to subject themselves to austerity so poor countries can catch up and surpass them. Life's not fair, the world will never be fair, and no amount of global-equity-fetishism will every make it fair.

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Re: Decent living standards for 8.5B would require 30% of current resource use

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There's a striking irony in sharing a degrowth article with an audience of well-paid developers whose daily resource use might match months of consumption for someone below the poverty line. Not implying everyone fits this mold—there are exceptions. Still, it's valuable food for thought. Thanks for posting.

Yea, computer is indeed using a lot of resources more resources than what average non-dev ppl use.

I don't know about that. I would bet my computer uses far less energy than the average vehicle in someone's commute.

Re: Decent living standards for 8.5B would require 30% of current resource use

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Yea, computer is indeed using a lot of resources more resources than what average non-dev ppl use.

Well-paid is the keyword. I think it's safe to say programmers earn more than average people. From my observations people usually spend proportionally to what they earn. EDIT: To make it more clear, I think resource use almost perfectly correlates with spending. One might argue, "But spending on services like plumbers, waiters or therapists doesn't directly consume resources." Yet, when you pay someone for their time…

Well said. I see few people who understand this.

Re: Decent living standards for 8.5B would require 30% of current resource use

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And US and west needs to stop immigration.

The west is aging. Without migration supporting the elderly will be impossible at some point in the next 50 years.

Tongue in cheek comment about large countries with already under replacement TFR needing to limit emissions when western countries with net immigration are typically elevating consumption of each immigrant to western standards which is equivalent to multiple per capita emissions of world average.
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