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Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by tonyhart7 »

observationist wrote: post #27

Serbia had the LRAD systems on hand, after buying them in 2022, most likely from Genasys, but possibly from HyperSpike. https://genasys.com/lrad-products/ It's a legal gray area in Serbia where the use against civilians isn't explicitly forbidden, so they're playing fast and loose and moving fast to crush opposition. It's better than troops just gunning people down, but for a modern, supposedly civilized country it's…

the only acceptable condition to use it maybe if there are riot or violence breakout in that area not for peaceful protest

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by camilo2025 »

observationist wrote: post #27

Serbia had the LRAD systems on hand, after buying them in 2022, most likely from Genasys, but possibly from HyperSpike. https://genasys.com/lrad-products/ It's a legal gray area in Serbia where the use against civilians isn't explicitly forbidden, so they're playing fast and loose and moving fast to crush opposition. It's better than troops just gunning people down, but for a modern, supposedly civilized country it's…

You are aware that these LRAD systems have been used against US citizens, aren't you?

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by tonyhart7 »

neilv wrote: post #24
aaomidi wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There are "dual-use" systems, and there are systems that are only weapons. There's also technologies and basic research, but those are different matters. I'm first interested in the more straightforward situation of the people who worked on a less-lethal weapon system, which they might've anticipated would be used in exactly this way. What do they think about that?

their first thought was maybe that used again riot or violence in the first place not necessarily to attack people

I mean its just moral Highground at this point, same can be said for Oppenheimer if he didn't do it maybe war that more costly would occur

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by impossiblefork »

hettygreen wrote: post #8

Is there any counter measure for this? Hardcore hearing protection? Noise cancelling headphones? Handheld sound insulation "shield"?

Once there's violence targeting you, the solution is to bring real weapons and resolve it using ordinary military tactics, that is, you kill the operator.

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Post by g-b-r »

observationist wrote: post #27

Serbia had the LRAD systems on hand, after buying them in 2022, most likely from Genasys, but possibly from HyperSpike. https://genasys.com/lrad-products/ It's a legal gray area in Serbia where the use against civilians isn't explicitly forbidden, so they're playing fast and loose and moving fast to crush opposition. It's better than troops just gunning people down, but for a modern, supposedly civilized country it's…

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Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by darepublic »

malfist wrote: post #11
hettygreen wrote: post #8

Is there any counter measure for this? Hardcore hearing protection? Noise cancelling headphones? Handheld sound insulation "shield"?

The report I read said it relied on bone conduction, so hearing protection wouldn't do a whole lot. Only things that can attenuate low frequency sounds before it gets to the ear. So muff style headphones might work, or mass

Can you have a device which upon detecting the frequency emits some kind of counter vibration that cancels out th attack?

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by cced »

CaffeineLD50 wrote: post #28
mdhb wrote: post #14

I don’t think governments should have access to the “make the protestors immediately go away” button that they can just hit whenever they want.

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You’re missing the point. You can’t call yourself a democracy and prevent people from peacefully protesting. Either you allow people the right to demonstrate in peace to show those in power the scale with which a certain cause moves people or people skip protesting altogether.

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by captainkrtek »

impossiblefork wrote: post #30

It really isn't smart to do this kind of thing. Once an organization actually attacks you, it's very easy to decide that any legitimacy they view themselves as having is irrelevant and to come back next Monday with mortars and machine guns.

Reminds me of the escalation seen in the Ukrainian Maidan, went from some heavy handed policing to non-lethal rounds (eg: teargas / beanbags) to BBs to snipers and live firing on crowds.
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