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xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Post by friendzis »

nativeit wrote: post #19

I've never needed the distributed nature of Kubernetes, but I dig the notion of using a spreadsheet as a control interface. Does anyone know of a similar paradigm for other sysadmin applications?

> I've never needed the distributed nature of Kubernetes

I reckon majority of operations do not strictly need distributed nature of Kubernetes and for many SMBs, which comfortably fit into one or two rack units plus maybe a storage shelf, that's even counterproductive.

However, Kubernetes, being resource virtualization platform, offers some very nice isolation and admin access control capabilities. I guess that's the power of kubernetes for most orgs.

Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Post by hnlmorg »

baq wrote: post #22

Better than yaml. Spreadsheets are underused as an UI. Every time you embed a table component in your app you probably wouldn’t complain about it being one.

The problem with spreadsheets vs regular tables is that spreadsheets allow for a lot of customisation (which is kind of the point of a spreadsheet vs a table).

As a programming interface, that makes spreadsheets deceptively powerful. But as a UI were you need to have control over how the user interacts, that makes spreadsheets incredibly painful to integrate.

Source: myself. I worked on a project around 20 years ago which integrated a spreadsheet into its UI and the number of ways people would break the application each month was mind boggling.

Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Post by osigurdson »

cm2187 wrote: post #17
GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re not worse than YAML…

In fact as a configuration file, spreadsheets are a much superior UI, you can change lots of numbers very quickly if your config is tabular in nature. Whether it is a good idea that what you type should modify a prod environment live is a different question. Working in finance and living in spreadsheet it sounds like a terrible design to me. You want to be to inspect the whole config change before it affects the targ…

Agree. I don't many use cases for manually editing the numbers of various things.
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