Surely arm is a better choice?
Choosing RISC-V here is more about how much soverienty a country has over the IP than anything else here. The US can probably consider most-all ARM IP to be dual use technology and immediately deny use of it. RISC-V being based out of Switzerland, the ISA being under a permissive Creative Commons license, and most software tools being FOSS is definitely why it's being adopted here. It's completely isolated from all g…
Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
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Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
RISC-V is an open standard. ARM still needs to be licensed. The world is abandoning rent seekers.
Is ARM better than RiSC? How many RISC computers can I go buy right now at the local Carrefour here in Barcelona? Weird definition of “abandoning.”
Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
RISC-V is an open standard. ARM still needs to be licensed. The world is abandoning rent seekers.
Is ARM better than RiSC? How many RISC computers can I go buy right now at the local Carrefour here in Barcelona? Weird definition of “abandoning.”
Right now, you are far more likely to use RISC-V and not know it than to knowingly interact with RISC-V directly. For example, since about 2015, Nvidia has used RISC-V as an onboard controller for their GPUs.
Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#34Surely arm is a better choice?
Choosing RISC-V here is more about how much soverienty a country has over the IP than anything else here. The US can probably consider most-all ARM IP to be dual use technology and immediately deny use of it. RISC-V being based out of Switzerland, the ISA being under a permissive Creative Commons license, and most software tools being FOSS is definitely why it's being adopted here. It's completely isolated from all g…
The US (certainly the current US) can do that, but (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm_Holdings):
“Arm Holdings plc (formerly an acronym for Advanced RISC Machines and originally Acorn RISC Machine) is a Japanese-owned British semiconductor and software design company based in Cambridge, England”
Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#35China recently moved that direction. That would be nice collaboration to see between EU and China. China to publish policy to boost RISC-V chip use nationwide, sources say https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-publish-policy-boos...
If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?
Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#36China recently moved that direction. That would be nice collaboration to see between EU and China. China to publish policy to boost RISC-V chip use nationwide, sources say https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-publish-policy-boos...
If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?
Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#37China recently moved that direction. That would be nice collaboration to see between EU and China. China to publish policy to boost RISC-V chip use nationwide, sources say https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-publish-policy-boos...
If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?
I know the US get to have elections but its always between family dynasties, billionaires or corporate stooges. The choice is an illusion.
Lets cut out the middleman and know we're working with a different system for societal structure rather than one that pretends otherwise.
Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Choosing RISC-V here is more about how much soverienty a country has over the IP than anything else here. The US can probably consider most-all ARM IP to be dual use technology and immediately deny use of it. RISC-V being based out of Switzerland, the ISA being under a permissive Creative Commons license, and most software tools being FOSS is definitely why it's being adopted here. It's completely isolated from all g…
And non-Apple Silicon is British?
Arm even tried to cancel Qualcomm’s licensing agreement back in the fall. Using RISC V entirely circumvents not only royalty payments, but legal battles like that (frivolous or not).
Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#39Surely arm is a better choice?
Choosing RISC-V here is more about how much soverienty a country has over the IP than anything else here. The US can probably consider most-all ARM IP to be dual use technology and immediately deny use of it. RISC-V being based out of Switzerland, the ISA being under a permissive Creative Commons license, and most software tools being FOSS is definitely why it's being adopted here. It's completely isolated from all g…
Re: Europe bets once again on RISC-V for supercomputing
#40China recently moved that direction. That would be nice collaboration to see between EU and China. China to publish policy to boost RISC-V chip use nationwide, sources say https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-publish-policy-boos...
If the goal is to decouple from the U.S., why would the EU want to collaborate with a totalitarian state like China?