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Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by lukan »

geysersam wrote: post #27
vargr616 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they do 10x worse on the general population. Politicians, especially the high ranking ones, should have 100% transparent lives and be monitorised by independent organisation at all times, as they work for the benefit of the public

> Politicians, especially the high ranking ones, should have 100% transparent lives For what purpose? What would you achieve by doing that?

100% surveillance would give you all of the backroom deals. The promises of executive positions in companies later on, if just this bill passes..

But, not practical. (I mean, it would also include bank account numbers, nuclear start codes, ..)

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by remus »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #23

Fun fact: this is quite likely illegal to do in the EU. If it should or should not be legal is a different question, but my understanding of present day law makes this not permissible.

Which law makes this illegal? Presumably the live stream is setup by the flemish government themselves, and they're all public figures acting in a public capacity. Maybe there is something else here, or some detail of Belgian law, but from the outside it doesn't seem there is much of a privacy argument.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by bondarchuk »

neilv wrote: post #17

This seems to be an art installation, but I see no explanation of what it means. Is there subtext that's obvious to someone from Belgium (e.g., politicians on phones is a known hot issue)? Or is the viewer supposed to interpret? BTW, if the main complaint that you have about your politicians is that they sometimes look at their phones while in meetings, you're doing really well, count your blessings.

Obviously the subtext is that they are faffing off on their phones and not using their presence at a parliamentary meeting to represent the interests of their constituents in that meeting, which is what they were elected to do. Though from that perspective we should also focus some more on the empty seats, then.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by bondarchuk »

totetsu wrote: post #18

Living in a country that doesn't speak my first language, I use the dictionary all the time during meetings and presentations. I hate it when people tell me that’s rude.. Okay I'll just sit here and not understand what was said to keep up appearances?

Presumably that specific reason would not apply to high-level politicians in their own country, and if it did they would have a real-time translator.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by jplrssn »

lukan wrote: post #31
geysersam wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Politicians, especially the high ranking ones, should have 100% transparent lives For what purpose? What would you achieve by doing that?

100% surveillance would give you all of the backroom deals. The promises of executive positions in companies later on, if just this bill passes.. But, not practical. (I mean, it would also include bank account numbers, nuclear start codes, ..)

No one sensible would agree to live like this. You’d be left only with politicians who were in it for all the wrong reasons.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by pjc50 »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #23

Fun fact: this is quite likely illegal to do in the EU. If it should or should not be legal is a different question, but my understanding of present day law makes this not permissible.

GDPR "news reporting" exemption probably applies.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by bondarchuk »

mathgeek wrote: post #14
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, if anything, all that stuff regular people are subjected to, must be now be used against people in power just to let them feel the weight of reality they have created. It is not that dissimilar to how Musk flights were tracked by a bot on Twitter not that long ago. Is it a dick move? Sure, but I am tired of there being two set of rules for those with power and those without it.

> Sure, but I am tired of there being two set of rules for those with power and those without it. Can you elaborate on how this project is going to impact that? What change do you expect will come about from it?

Can you elaborate on how this is not obvious to you? Sorry but this feels borderline concern-trollish.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

netsharc wrote: post #4

He (oh he is you, OP) has got a lot of different projects, including one that was tracking people on EarthCam streams and trying to find their Instagram post (or the other way around): https://driesdepoorter.be/thefollower/ , which went sort of viral: https://mashable.com/article/instagram-stalking-ai-facial-re... I wonder why you self-promote and repost your "old" stuff though..

> I wonder why you self-promote and repost your "old" stuff though..

Personal branding / marketing? Pretty common on HN if you look out for it.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Post by tyingq »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #6

This is useless, if you don't know what they're doing on their phones. Fact checking the speaker? Playing candy crush? Who knows.

And the loophole is apparently to just use a laptop or tablet, like two of the not-highlighted politicians in the photo.
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