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QwQ-32B: Embracing the Power of Reinforcement Learning

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Re: QwQ-32B: Embracing the Power of Reinforcement Learning

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To test: https://chat.qwen.ai/ and select Qwen2.5-plus, then toggle QWQ.

super impressive. we won't need that many GPUs in the future if we can have the performance of DeepSeek R1 with even less parameters. NVIDIA is in trouble. We are moving towards a world of very cheap compute: https://medium.com/thoughts-on-machine-learning/a-future-of-...

Have you heard of Jevons paradox? That says that whenever new tech is used to make something more efficient the tech is just upscaled to make the product quality higher. Same here. Deepseek has some algoritmic improvements that reduces resources for the same output quality. But increasig resources (which are available) will increase the quality. There will be always need for more compute. Nvidia is not in trouble. They have a monopoly on high performing ai chips for which demand will at least rise by a factor of 1000 upcoming years (my personal opinion)

Re: QwQ-32B: Embracing the Power of Reinforcement Learning

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post #29
post #7

To test: https://chat.qwen.ai/ and select Qwen2.5-plus, then toggle QWQ.

super impressive. we won't need that many GPUs in the future if we can have the performance of DeepSeek R1 with even less parameters. NVIDIA is in trouble. We are moving towards a world of very cheap compute: https://medium.com/thoughts-on-machine-learning/a-future-of-...

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Re: QwQ-32B: Embracing the Power of Reinforcement Learning

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Chinese strategy is open-source software part and earn on robotics part. And, They are already ahead of everyone in that game. These things are pretty interesting as they are developing. What US will do to retain its power? BTW I am Indian and we are not even in the race as country. :(

Also part of their culture/identity. A good thing i believe.

Re: QwQ-32B: Embracing the Power of Reinforcement Learning

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Note the massive context length (130k tokens). Also because it would be kinda pointless to generate a long CoT without enough context to contain it and the reply.

EDIT: Here we are. My first prompt created a CoT so long that it catastrophically forgot the task (but I don't believe I was near 130k -- using ollama with fp16 model). I asked one of my test questions with a coding question totally unrelated to what it says:

But the problem is in this question. Wait perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself.

Wait the user hasn't actually provided a specific task yet. Let me check again.

The initial instruction says:

"Please act as an AI agent that can perform tasks... When responding, first output a YAML data structure with your proposed action, then wait for feedback before proceeding."

But perhaps this is part of a system prompt? Wait the user input here seems to be just "You will be given a problem. Please reason step by step..." followed by a possible task?

Note: Ollama "/show info" shows that the context size set is correct.

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