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DiffRhythm: Fast End-to-End Full-Length Song Generation with Latent Diffusion

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Re: DiffRhythm: Fast End-to-End Full-Length Song Generation with Latent Diffusion

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Not everyone enjoys composing music, and for a large group of people paying an artist is not an option. There's a lot to critizise about current AI tech, saying of all things this has no net benefit seems like the wrong thing to call out, and incredibly short sighted for HN.

So putting paid humans out of business is your position then? Please explain why you believe in the long sighted view AI reducing already poverty level wages to zero is beneficial.

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because copyright? these AI tools are great for adding a music to your YT video w/o worrying about violating copyright.

There's already a huge library of royalty free music available and even just AIing some music up doesn't fully protect you from strikes if it hallucinates something close enough to an existing song.

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If I am to retain any interest as an amateur music writer without proaudio engineering skills and equipment, but with a day job, , I want tools that help me enact MY vision to reality. That means multi tracking, ability to hum or score a melody and have it transfer to musical instrument, ability to enter existing tracks, provide a temporal segment for diffusion, and ask it to 'generate a counterpoint to the melody wi…

I'd be surprised if the people who are writing these understand what this means.

The request is valid; you just need the right tools for the job.

Story Jam lets you design chord progressions without needing to know about music theory, instead offering intuitive terms like "lightness", "darkness", "drifting" and "roaming". They mean about what you think they mean.

https://storyjam.tenpens.ink

I'm planning a "Show HN" post for tomorrow morning EST with more details. But you can get the sneak peek here :)

Re: DiffRhythm: Fast End-to-End Full-Length Song Generation with Latent Diffusion

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This is why we never should have invented the phonograph. People who want to listen to music can just buy a record, making it literally impossible for them to perform an activity humans ENJOY doing. Without it everyone would surely be making all their own music, and nothing valuable would be lost

The ability to record has led the greatest expansion I musical artistry in human history. Ty it don’t think peasants were listening t to Bach, do you? Only the extraordinarily wealthy could afford to have music as anything like an every day thing.

And with more affordable and easier-to-learn tools, the creation of music will be similarly made much more accessible? DAWs and virtual instruments running on regular laptop was one step, generative AI models will be another?

Re: DiffRhythm: Fast End-to-End Full-Length Song Generation with Latent Diffusion

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It’s just combining sample WAV files without human coordination, talk about a lame-ass achievement. It’s already easy enough to set BPM and load in files in Ableton and warp them into unison, from what I heard this is basically just that with”HOORAY FOR AI” slathered as a veneer on top.

If you think I’m being harsh, I have my reasons as a professional musician to critique these things in an unflattering light because they are my competition. Thankfully actually “generated” AI music is trash. Copyright is problematic in the US, I admit, but tech bros using copyrighted material to train programs to put us out of business - without paying a penny which even Spotify doesn’t per stream - yeah, I’ll have some disdain about this scenario and I feel it’s justified.

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

Re: DiffRhythm: Fast End-to-End Full-Length Song Generation with Latent Diffusion

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The style matching is interesting, but there's no song structure. There's no identifiable chorus in any of the demo songs.

That can probably be a style in itself (if we kept exploring in these directions)

No, it’s not a style, it’s by definition an incomplete song.

Re: DiffRhythm: Fast End-to-End Full-Length Song Generation with Latent Diffusion

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Business doesn’t hate creatives, and is not specifically targeting creatives to automate them away. Any job that can be done as good for a lower price or better for the same price is going to be a target.

> Any job that can be done as good for a lower price or better for the same price is going to be a target. So they just hate humanity in general then.

Yes, this has always been the case. This is why capital holders are actively hostile to labor organizing and tend to back fascism when liberalism falls into crisis.

Re: DiffRhythm: Fast End-to-End Full-Length Song Generation with Latent Diffusion

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Not everyone enjoys composing music, and for a large group of people paying an artist is not an option. There's a lot to critizise about current AI tech, saying of all things this has no net benefit seems like the wrong thing to call out, and incredibly short sighted for HN.

In this particular case it is totally black and white. Prove me wrong.

Tell me one example how music gen in any way benefits anybody to the level that is worth putting out of business the last few artists that make ends meet?

Re: DiffRhythm: Fast End-to-End Full-Length Song Generation with Latent Diffusion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone enjoys composing music, and for a large group of people paying an artist is not an option. There's a lot to critizise about current AI tech, saying of all things this has no net benefit seems like the wrong thing to call out, and incredibly short sighted for HN.

So putting paid humans out of business is your position then? Please explain why you believe in the long sighted view AI reducing already poverty level wages to zero is beneficial.

Do you not see how your argument could be applied to steam engines putting human laborers out of work? Or computers putting (human) calculators out of work? Do you think inventing the steam machine or computers was a mistake too?
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