Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use • Hacker News Board

Re: Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Post by stubish » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 7:34 AM UTC

gruez wrote: post #9

alyandon wrote: post #7

Kind of in a ranty mood today. I'd gladly pay to support development of Firefox if it were possible to fund it directly via something like a recurring subscription. Instead my only option is to donate to the Mozilla foundation which lists the following salaries for their executives (according to Charity Navigator): Mark Surman, President & Executive Director - $661,886 J Bob Alotta, Svp, Global Programs - $417,327 An…

Are those supposed to be high? What's a reasonable salary for executives? The same site lists the following salaries for American Red Cross: Gail Mcgovern, President & Ceo $859,260 Clifford Holtz, Chief Operating Officer $749,814 Chris Hrouda, President Of Biomedical Services $696,337 Shaun Gilmore, Chief Transformation Officer $619,929 Brian Rhoa, Chief Investment Officer $610,239 Is there any indication Mozilla's s…

The salaries might not be high for the job they are doing. But those jobs probably shouldn't exist at all given that most people here want to see a web browser developed and maintained, and not whatever Mozilla Corp is doing that actually requires an executive director or vice presidents of anything.

Re: Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Post by GrantMoyer » Tue, Mar 04, 2025, 4:22 PM UTC

halJordan wrote: post #28

GrantMoyer wrote: post #19

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The whole clause is weird because Mozilla doesn't operate Firefox; the user does. So at face value, "you give Mozilla the rights necessary to operate Firefox" means you give Mozilla no rights, but obviously that's not the intent. Then they explicitly list a couple examples, but don't say the granted rights are limited to those examples, so the clause could mean practically anything. I'm curious if any lawyers can com…

User agents do a lot, even innocuous things like spell check or SafeBrowsing. Pretending like a browser simple retrieves and renders html is either really funny or dishonest

I don't understand your comment. I didn't say or suggest a browser only renders HTML. Are you saying Mozilla did?

Re: Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Post by seizethegdgap » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 2:53 PM UTC

dismalaf wrote: post #17

everybodyknows wrote: post #14

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> Google revenue For those who've lost track of that situation, can you provide a link or two? Is Mozilla management looking at current national politics and figuring that antitrust pressure on Google is going to be nil for the next four years?

> For those who've lost track of that situation, can you provide a link or two? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/06/technology/google-search-... I mean, it's the same situation as last year. Google lost the lawsuit, got declared a monopoly, the DOJ said they'll force Google to stop paying Apple and Mozilla for placement on their devices/browser (for Mozilla that means losing $500 million in ARR), Google is appealing b…

I could be wrong, but (after all the appeals are said and done) I don't think this is going to happen under Trump.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-urges-doj-reverse-...

Google kissed the ring and donated $1 Million to his inauguration fund.

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-donates-1-million-tru...