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FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

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Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

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Well considering the FDA gave no information or plans to reschedule to committee members that seems unlikely. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/us/politics/fda-flu-vacci... > The F.D.A. sent an email to members of the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee on Monday afternoon informing them of the cancellation, according to a senior official familiar with the decision. There was no reason given.…

> “So one can only assume” They are “assuming” a major unannounced policy change based on… a single meeting cancelation. By this cause/effect protocol, I have personally witnessed dozens of multi billion dollar project cancellations, or so I assume. RFK Jr has never proposed canning the vaccine program. He wants certain studies performed, which presumably would run in parallel with the existing program. The constant…

have you considered the possibility that despite sanewashing this, it is really a problem? That the current administration is not normal? That perhaps there really is cause for alarm?

Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well considering the FDA gave no information or plans to reschedule to committee members that seems unlikely. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/us/politics/fda-flu-vacci... > The F.D.A. sent an email to members of the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee on Monday afternoon informing them of the cancellation, according to a senior official familiar with the decision. There was no reason given.…

> “So one can only assume” They are “assuming” a major unannounced policy change based on… a single meeting cancelation. By this cause/effect protocol, I have personally witnessed dozens of multi billion dollar project cancellations, or so I assume. RFK Jr has never proposed canning the vaccine program. He wants certain studies performed, which presumably would run in parallel with the existing program. The constant…

Could it be possible you are wrong, and it is as bad as everyone here seems to think?

Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well considering the FDA gave no information or plans to reschedule to committee members that seems unlikely. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/us/politics/fda-flu-vacci... > The F.D.A. sent an email to members of the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee on Monday afternoon informing them of the cancellation, according to a senior official familiar with the decision. There was no reason given.…

> “So one can only assume” They are “assuming” a major unannounced policy change based on… a single meeting cancelation. By this cause/effect protocol, I have personally witnessed dozens of multi billion dollar project cancellations, or so I assume. RFK Jr has never proposed canning the vaccine program. He wants certain studies performed, which presumably would run in parallel with the existing program. The constant…

It's a highly time sensitive meeting around setting manufacturing targets for the upcoming flu season. It's the kind of thing that when delayed causes actual adverse problems as opposed to cancelling a sprint standup or whatever.

Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

#35

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Well considering the FDA gave no information or plans to reschedule to committee members that seems unlikely. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/us/politics/fda-flu-vacci... > The F.D.A. sent an email to members of the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee on Monday afternoon informing them of the cancellation, according to a senior official familiar with the decision. There was no reason given.…

> “So one can only assume” They are “assuming” a major unannounced policy change based on… a single meeting cancelation. By this cause/effect protocol, I have personally witnessed dozens of multi billion dollar project cancellations, or so I assume. RFK Jr has never proposed canning the vaccine program. He wants certain studies performed, which presumably would run in parallel with the existing program. The constant…

The anti vaccine movement that RFK Jr grifts off of is the hysteria.

Worrying about the grifter crank harming public health is level headed...

Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

#36
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They want your money. Nothing to do with MAGA. They “cut” federal spending and fire people from their jobs while MElon makes $100b since December.

how does canceling a meeting to pick a flu strain for development of a flu vaccine help them to acquire money?

Depends who was in the meeting.

Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

#37

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I live in a very red state and mostly know Trump voters. I disagree with them on plenty of political topics (though that was true with Biden voters as well).

I don't consider many of them hateful though, and they are helpful to neighbors.

The last 2-8 years has felt very strange to me comparing what I experience day to day and how I often see our society more broadly described.

I've lived in Seattle, Europe, and the southern US over that time. Everywhere I've been I found people in the area to be friendly and helpful. Watch TV though and it sure seems like whoever the "other side" for a particular context are a bunch of horrible, hateful, angry people that just don't get it.

With regards to MAGA specifically. I don't find most of the ideas I hear floated as more hateful than the overtone coming from the democratic side of the aisle during the pandemic response. Anyone who chose not to get vaccinated was demonized and painted as a murder who hates old people. Anyone who disagreed with the main narrative was generally ostracized and slapped with labels like "anti-vaxxer" or "anti-science".

Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

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We never really addressed the issues of the Civil War. Desegregation caused white men to destroy the social fabric of the nation. We used to have municipal pools that were free to use. Ambulances used to be free as well as trash collection. The idea of communities running services ended with desegregation and white flight from the cities. Now we have become an “i’ve got mine, fuck you” nation.

Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They want your money. Nothing to do with MAGA. They “cut” federal spending and fire people from their jobs while MElon makes $100b since December.

how does canceling a meeting to pick a flu strain for development of a flu vaccine help them to acquire money?

musks been getting more federal contracts during all this, so it's probably just cutting any spending he can to free up money for him

Re: FDA meeting to pick next winter's flu shot is canceled, in ominous sign for US

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post #16

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how does canceling a meeting to pick a flu strain for development of a flu vaccine help them to acquire money?

If a bunch of old people on Social Security die several years early due to influenza... Yay! They saved money and extended Social Security! Or can raid it for other things...

It seems like the bigger win financially would be back room deals with pharmaceutical companies selling the next vaccine.

Saving money on social security because more unhealthy people died doesn't directly make anyone in charge any more rich. Unless I missed something you can't short Social Security liabilities.

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