Forget PMs and engineers, the discussion I want to see happening is just how much more easily an LLM could replace the average CEO...
Just about every problem is a leadership problem.
AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
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Re: AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
#32Forget PMs and engineers, the discussion I want to see happening is just how much more easily an LLM could replace the average CEO...
Hey that's a topic I can get behind! Most of the big CEOs appear to be CEO of multiple companies (Musk and Bezos come to mind). If you can be the CEO of five different companies, it really doesn't seem like it can be that hard of a job. ChatGPT might be able to do that just fine.
And, at least for one of them, they also tweet all day while somehow being invaluable in providing leadership for like 5 companies. At the same time. I can't even successfully effectively juggle 4-5 _projects_ at a time.
Re: AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
#33I've been watching several "vibe coding" vids on the youtubes. https://x.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383
Some of them are painful. Some are impressive. The projects are small. Sometimes pulling in powerful off-the-shelf modules. They are getting better fast.
As a greybeard software architect, my current annoyance is that I'm spending all day talking to people when I want to get some practice voice prompting code :P
Re: AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
#34I'm fortunate to work for a company with great PMs at the moment, but in the past, it's usually been the case that PMs blur the line between PMs and engineers by making us do their job for them. That they can use AI to appear productive is not a promising development.
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#35Absolutely agree with this observation. And I think it’s a great outcome.
The vibe coding Reddit (http://reddit.com/r/vibecoding) already contains the full spectrum of “first time trying to code” to “just rolled my own custom GPT to optimize this.”
Re: AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
#36Forget PMs and engineers, the discussion I want to see happening is just how much more easily an LLM could replace the average CEO...
Hey that's a topic I can get behind! Most of the big CEOs appear to be CEO of multiple companies (Musk and Bezos come to mind). If you can be the CEO of five different companies, it really doesn't seem like it can be that hard of a job. ChatGPT might be able to do that just fine.
> Most of the big CEOs appear to be CEO of multiple companies (Musk and Bezos come to mind).
Most big CEOs are definitely not in charge of multiple companies. You hear about Musk and Bezos because they’re all over the news, but they’re all over the news because they’re not normal CEOs.
It’s well known that Musk’s relationship to his companies is primarily one of ownership and delegation. Bezos hasn’t been in charge of Amazon for a long time but people conveniently forget that at every opportunity.
> it really doesn't seem like it can be that hard of a job.
It’s funny how often I hear this about AI replacing jobs, with one exception: Everyone who repeats it is highly confident that AI can replace other jobs but once you get to the work they do they’ll stop and explain why it’s actually much harder than you think.
Re: AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
#37i think the plan of folks like these is keep peddling agi, replacement, line blurring and make the money through secondaries for as long as possible till it all collapses like crypto.
Re: AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
#38Depends. If it is for writing documents, you really don't need a lot of 'technical writers'. For managing engineers? Honestly a competent staff engineer can replace 2 PMs.
For writing code with PMs replacing Engineers with AI assistants? Very unlikely, even if they try as soon as you get to the question on maintaining an existing codebase, this is where LLMs begin to hallucinate more and struggle.
The typical PM won't know that they generated bad code. You still need an engineer to detect that.
This is a obvious bubble repeating like it's 1999.
Re: AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
#39Forget PMs and engineers, the discussion I want to see happening is just how much more easily an LLM could replace the average CEO...
Real-talk: using an LLM for CEO-work makes sense for when hard, rational, decisions need to be made (e.g. new divisions, layoffs, expansion, etc) - but CEOs also need to be a leader and inspire confidence in their subordinates - a non-human agent with non-human motivations simply can’t do that.
Re: AI is blurring the line between PMs and engineers?
#40These articles are a little annoying. I love ChatGPT [1]. I use it all the time. I use it for coding, I use it to generate stuff like form letters, I use it for parsing out information from PDFs. Point is, I'm not a luddite with this stuff; I'm perfectly happy to play with and use new tech, including but not limited to AI. Which makes me confident when I say this: Anyone who thinks that AI in its current state is "bl…
I feel like I agree with you - AI is great if you're a seasoned, experienced person within the domain you are asking help for. If you're not, there is no way to know if what you are getting as feedback is accurate or not.
AI is like a lot of "Startup Founders", great at presenting all sorts of things as facts, but if you really dig and drill, they don't really have any domain expertise.