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What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Re: What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Post by cidra »

autopoiesis wrote: post #3

So the Android work has been merged? Does this mean anything for Hu Jianwei's builds (of Emacs and Termux) at [1]? Having them in an obscure SourceForge repo seems less than optimal; getting Obtainium to understand the repo structure was not super fun... [1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs...

I believe that he (which is who ported Emacs to Android) will keep uploading nightly builds in there. The stable Emacs 30.1 release will shortly be available in both the GNU FTP server and F-Droid

Re: What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Post by cidra »

jmclnx wrote: post #25
bitwize wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gtk maintainers ran out of fucks to give for anyone except Linux/Wayland users years ago. Honestly, emacs-lucid is the smoothest most stable experience if you're still on X11.

Sadly emacs-lucid does not exist in OpenBSD or nor NetBSD. But I expect compiling it myself would not be that difficult.

I hate having to build stuff myself, but I must say that Emacs is pretty easy to compile

Re: What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Post by JohnKemeny »

eadmund wrote: post #8

> The Org URI protocol should now register automatically, meaning you can send data from a browser bookmarklet straight into org capture in your running Emacs instance. Is there any risk of a website including a link using the Org URI scheme to load malware into your Emacs this way?

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40768225

That one is fixed, though.

Re: What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Post by binary132 »

pjmlp wrote: post #23
binary132 wrote: post #17

Emacs just keeps getting better and better. Never really understood the motivation to fork or rewrite it. It's one of the best free projects out there.

Back in the XEmacs days, when I cared about it, graphical widgets, better extension points, and not so religious against usability features as Emacs understand the stewardship from the mighty Stallman. Nowadays no idea, I even lost track if Emacs finally does everything that was special about XEmacs, 30 years ago.

Not quite following. You’re saying there used to be a motive to use forks, because Emacs proper wasn’t healthy? At this point, standard GNU Emacs is about as good as it gets in my book, plus the package library is of very high quality compared to the other editor stacks out there. People just don’t get into writing emacs packages if they’re not in the 1% of the 1% of developers in the first place. Almost zero slop.

Re: What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Post by pjmlp »

binary132 wrote: post #34
pjmlp wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in the XEmacs days, when I cared about it, graphical widgets, better extension points, and not so religious against usability features as Emacs understand the stewardship from the mighty Stallman. Nowadays no idea, I even lost track if Emacs finally does everything that was special about XEmacs, 30 years ago.

Not quite following. You’re saying there used to be a motive to use forks, because Emacs proper wasn’t healthy? At this point, standard GNU Emacs is about as good as it gets in my book, plus the package library is of very high quality compared to the other editor stacks out there. People just don’t get into writing emacs packages if they’re not in the 1% of the 1% of developers in the first place. Almost zero slop.

Yes, lets say Guile never really makes as an Elisp replacement, that would be another case, although apparently Guile-Emacs effort was relaunched, lets see.

30 years ago it was another matter, Emacs culture back then was pretty much against the cool features from XEmacs, a bit like GCC versus what made clang exist in first place, in terms of how Stalman would vouch against such features.

In any case, the 1% remark is quite relevant given how many still reach out to Emacs in modern times.

Re: What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Post by binary132 »

pjmlp wrote: post #35
binary132 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite following. You’re saying there used to be a motive to use forks, because Emacs proper wasn’t healthy? At this point, standard GNU Emacs is about as good as it gets in my book, plus the package library is of very high quality compared to the other editor stacks out there. People just don’t get into writing emacs packages if they’re not in the 1% of the 1% of developers in the first place. Almost zero slop.

Yes, lets say Guile never really makes as an Elisp replacement, that would be another case, although apparently Guile-Emacs effort was relaunched, lets see. 30 years ago it was another matter, Emacs culture back then was pretty much against the cool features from XEmacs, a bit like GCC versus what made clang exist in first place, in terms of how Stalman would vouch against such features. In any case, the 1% remark is…

What made Clang exist, and become successful, was having a massive corporate backer and a nonfree license.

Re: What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Post by nokun7 »

bitwize wrote: post #28
nokun7 wrote: post #6

As a longtime Vim user, I’ve got to say, the "completion-preview-mode" caught my eye. It’s pretty cool how Emacs is tossing in this slick, built-in predictive typing thing—kinda like Company or Corfu, but using its own minibuffer magic. Honestly, it’s a chill move that keeps things smooth without overcomplicating the vibe. Emacs just keeps doing its thing, polishing the edges while staying true to its hardcore, custo…

Look mate, as far as I'm concerned the old editor wars fizzled out a long time ago. Now it's us in the emacs and vim camps vs. the IntelliJs and VS Codes of the world.

I can't disagree with that too much, although I have a very special place in my heart for the Intellij's of the world.

Re: What's New in Emacs 30.1?

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Post by Tomte »

throwA29B wrote: post #10

>Native compilation is now enabled by default. And it shows. Now emacs is much nicer to use on Windows. Big thanks to the developers!

You probably still want to exclude Emacs directories from Windows Defender. That speed boost is massive.
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