The three goals featured prominently above the fold are: > truly open > including data, documentation, training and testing code, and evaluation metrics; including community involvement > compliant > under EU regulations, OpenEuroLLM will provide a series of transparent and performant LLMs > diverse > for European languages and other socially and economically interesting ones, preserving linguistic and cultural diver…
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#32But can I run it on Gaia-X? This really reads like a parody. Press release, “a consortium of 20 research institutions”, “awarded the STEP (Strategic Technologies for Europe Platform) seal”. Lots of grandiose self-congratulations. All with nothing to run, download or try of course.
Europe is moving at the speed of bureaucracy. It's slow, but inexorable. And honestly, people don't _want_ the European bureaucracy to move fast. Case in point: the USA.
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#33The three goals featured prominently above the fold are: > truly open > including data, documentation, training and testing code, and evaluation metrics; including community involvement > compliant > under EU regulations, OpenEuroLLM will provide a series of transparent and performant LLMs > diverse > for European languages and other socially and economically interesting ones, preserving linguistic and cultural diver…
That note about EU regulations may also be dangerous. There is an increasing trend of European leaders supporting censorship of speech, on weak justifications like misinformation that are applied very aggressively. There are even videos of police showing up at people’s homes in some countries, over tweets they made. I don’t have faith that these European LLMs will be trustworthy as a result.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
From https://openeurollm.eu/launch-press-release (3 Feb 2025): > "The models will be developed within Europe's robust regulatory framework...
Not a surprising stance if the project is funded by the people who are responsible for said regulatory framework
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#35This should probably link to the actual press release since its more of an announcement of something forming rather than a release of any models, code, whitepapers, etc. https://openeurollm.eu/launch-press-release
This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future.
It should be done in secret? How did they manage to create CERN? maybe there was no reddit like people commenting back then?
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#36I wish EU programmer wages could be higher via lower taxes instead of funding things like this
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#37How would EU enforce their regulation with an open recipe? Say I take the recipe plus my own data to train a model that has no check of my speech whatsoever, and let my friends use it, wouldn't that violate some regulations of EU?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future.
>This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future. It should be done in secret? How did they manage to create CERN? maybe there was no reddit like people commenting back then?
As a European myself, I would prefer them to put less emphasis on collaboration and more on actually doing something's with the resources available to them and making that freely available. Collaboration will happen naturally and without having to coordinate.
But as they said, this is less about producing value then it's about signaling
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future.
>This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future. It should be done in secret? How did they manage to create CERN? maybe there was no reddit like people commenting back then?