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Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by nobankai »

lostmsu wrote: post #24
edm0nd wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not innocent. He was a member of the cybercrime skid community called "The Com" that is regularly involved with cryptocurrency thefts, ddos attacks, and sim swapping. It's not normal. Dude is a blackhat skid with some crazy access to shit he shouldnt have access to imo. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-...

> archipelago of Discord and Telegram chat channels > He's not innocent. Are you for real?

The recent KrebsOnSecurity goes into why this is no joke. These are cybercriminals trading in fraud, pig butchering, illegal pornography and swatting attempts.

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by dashundchen »

FlamingMoe wrote: post #13
nobankai wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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One good reason? Look at the financial state of the country. We’ve been running trillion-dollar deficits, ballooning debt, and unsustainable spending for years. If Musk’s appointees are doing the opposite of what got us here—cutting waste, streamlining bureaucracy, and questioning sacred cows—that’s at least some indication they might be acting in taxpayers’ interests. The real question isn’t why assume they are—it’s…

Again, this is so easily disproven. How are you buying this at all?

Musk and Trump are not concerned about debt or spending. If they were, Trump and Republicans wouldn't be rushing a billionaire tax cut bill that will add tens of trillions of dollars to the national debt.

If Trump cared about debt he wouldn't have run up $8 trillion in debt his last term with PPP helicopter money and more billionaire tax cuts.

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by jrs235 »

analog31 wrote: post #26
FlamingMoe wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One good reason? Look at the financial state of the country. We’ve been running trillion-dollar deficits, ballooning debt, and unsustainable spending for years. If Musk’s appointees are doing the opposite of what got us here—cutting waste, streamlining bureaucracy, and questioning sacred cows—that’s at least some indication they might be acting in taxpayers’ interests. The real question isn’t why assume they are—it’s…

>>> why assume the status quo was working in the first place. Spending has been "unsustainable" for 40+ years, ever since Reagan gave up on trying to get his own party to reduce it. I'd say that's a pretty good indication that the status quo was working well enough.

Pretty sure the US had a surplus in the 90's!

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by jrs235 »

dashundchen wrote: post #32
FlamingMoe wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One good reason? Look at the financial state of the country. We’ve been running trillion-dollar deficits, ballooning debt, and unsustainable spending for years. If Musk’s appointees are doing the opposite of what got us here—cutting waste, streamlining bureaucracy, and questioning sacred cows—that’s at least some indication they might be acting in taxpayers’ interests. The real question isn’t why assume they are—it’s…

Again, this is so easily disproven. How are you buying this at all? Musk and Trump are not concerned about debt or spending. If they were, Trump and Republicans wouldn't be rushing a billionaire tax cut bill that will add tens of trillions of dollars to the national debt. If Trump cared about debt he wouldn't have run up $8 trillion in debt his last term with PPP helicopter money and more billionaire tax cuts.

There is a cult that believes every word their demagogue says, even if they are contradictory to each other or his actions.

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by keepamovin »

edm0nd wrote: post #15
keepamovin wrote: post #2

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He's not innocent. He was a member of the cybercrime skid community called "The Com" that is regularly involved with cryptocurrency thefts, ddos attacks, and sim swapping. It's not normal. Dude is a blackhat skid with some crazy access to shit he shouldnt have access to imo. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-...

Ok, alright, well if that's the truth then I agree with you. I just don't happen to know whether he's blackhat or just infiltrating. Shrug.

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by keepamovin »

woodruffw wrote: post #16
keepamovin wrote: post #2

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> The presumption of innocence should direct opinion, not implication, but the links should be noted. The standard in civil service is historically and conventionally "beyond even the appearance of impropriety," not "presumption of innocence." I think the person in question falls well below that standard.

Yeah, that makes sense based on my experience, tho the problem is appearance - they often fabricate it without substance - leads to a huge level abuse, and erodes trust in the authorities you thought you could. A system that rewards liars and punishes honesty is not good.

I think it also contributes to a culture of corruption - ie, given how resistant some of these civil service positions are to being fired in practice, I wonder how much they carry their vaunted morals through.

Once you're in: do whatever you please! This also supports the appearance - "we are beyond reproach so we couldn't be doing anything bad." Plus, the secrecy shield to block accountability. Likely all enables the level of corruption and perversion that's so obvious.

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by keepamovin »

benatkin wrote: post #30
keepamovin wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough but is he really gray hat? We don't know. Or is he just whiter than white but walked in the shadow lands to gather sacred mushrooms?

He's either grey hat or deny hat ...the allow hat ship sailed.

I don't get your joke, but thanks! Heh :)

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by keepamovin »

chonkerz wrote: post #21
keepamovin wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough but is he really gray hat? We don't know. Or is he just whiter than white but walked in the shadow lands to gather sacred mushrooms?

If only they bothered to do a real background check

I do agree that vetting would be a good idea - did they tho? We don't know. That's the thing. I guess DOGE is sorta like move fast and break things applied to gov? Hah :)

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by keepamovin »

chonkerz wrote: post #14
keepamovin wrote: post #2

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He wasn't interacting with them as a researcher does. He was working for them as an employee. And then they fired him and accused him of leaking, and publicly humiliated him. No one even knows what this kid is doing inside CISA's network!!

I think you're getting confused based on the article which says he was interacting with "The Com", and working for Path Networks which he was fired from for leaking.

Re: Doge Teen with Cybercrime Connections Now Inside Cybersecurity Agency CISA

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Post by keepamovin »

cantSpellSober wrote: post #12
keepamovin wrote: post #2

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Yes unfortunately this is much more specific than "cyber researchers interacting with cybercriminals" > Coristine was fired from a company after leaking internal firm secrets to a competitor ...and now has physical access to building facilities at CISA

I don't know, in those situations how can you tell? Based off of this reporting it's not conclusive. May have just been a junior they landed blame on for some issues with competitors?
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