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Re: 1972 Unix V2 "Beta" Resurrected

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s the difference between an emulator and a simulator in this context?

In theory, an emulator is oriented around producing a result (this may mean making acceptable compromises), whereas a simulator is oriented around inspection of state (this usually means being exact). In practice the terms are often conflated.

The difference is about as crystal clear as compiler/interpreter.

Re: 1972 Unix V2 "Beta" Resurrected

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I love this! first time I see people use 'ed' for work!!! I wonder who else has to deal with ed also... recently I had to connect to an ancient system where vi was not available, I had to write my own editor, so whoever needs an editor for an ancient system, ping me (it is not too fancy). amazing work by the creators of this software and by the researchers, you have my full respect guys. those are the real engineers!

An early consulting gig was to write a tutorial for ed (on the Coherent system). I often use ed--in fact I used it yesterday. I needed to edit something without clearing the screen.

Earlier, I wrote an editor for card images stored on disks. Very primitive.

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Cool. Can we enter that time portal and live in that alternate reality?

I mean... Sure? Go buy an actual VT* unit ( maybe https://www.ebay.com/itm/176698465415?_skw=vt+terminal&itmme... ?), get the necessary adaptors to plug into a computer, and run simh on it running your choice of *nix. I recommend https://jstn.tumblr.com/post/8692501831 as a reference. Once you have it working, shove the host machine behind a desk or otherwise out of sight, and you can live like it's 1980.

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Cool. Can we enter that time portal and live in that alternate reality?

When gasoline was leaded, cigarette smoke was normal everywhere, and asbestos was used for everything you can think of? It is a fascinating decade but also quality of life likely has skyrocketed since.

> quality of life likely has skyrocketed since

it hasn't

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Spock levels of fascinating from me. I want to learn how to compile a pdp11 emulator on my mac.

Compiling an emulator is quite easy: have a look at simh. It's very portable and should just work out of the box. Once you've got that working, try installing a 2.11BSD distribution. It's well-documented and came after a lot of the churn in early Unix. After that, I've had great fun playing with RT-11, to the point that I've actually written some small apps on it.

I've been messing around with RSX-11M myself! I find these early OSes quite fascinating. So far I've set up DECNet with another emulator running VMS, installed a TCP stack, and a bunch of compilers.

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I love this! first time I see people use 'ed' for work!!! I wonder who else has to deal with ed also... recently I had to connect to an ancient system where vi was not available, I had to write my own editor, so whoever needs an editor for an ancient system, ping me (it is not too fancy). amazing work by the creators of this software and by the researchers, you have my full respect guys. those are the real engineers!

Real Programmers use ed. https://xkcd.com/378/

Re: 1972 Unix V2 "Beta" Resurrected

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Cool. Can we enter that time portal and live in that alternate reality?

When gasoline was leaded, cigarette smoke was normal everywhere, and asbestos was used for everything you can think of? It is a fascinating decade but also quality of life likely has skyrocketed since.

it is fascinating to consider that this might not be true even though it seems true
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