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A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by noja »

UrineSqueegee wrote: post #17

" Duffy said the team from SpaceX went to Virginia to “get a firsthand look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern and safer system.”" I don't understand how anyone can be reasonably against this? They are not going to just overhaul everything overnight, they are going to upgrade the system based on ATC f…

You really don’t understand?

They do not what they say they will do.

They do not listen. They destroy.

They do not take responsibility, they point fingers.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by MourYother »

gitfan86 wrote: post #27
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #3

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

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Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by ap99 »

UrineSqueegee wrote: post #17

" Duffy said the team from SpaceX went to Virginia to “get a firsthand look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern and safer system.”" I don't understand how anyone can be reasonably against this? They are not going to just overhaul everything overnight, they are going to upgrade the system based on ATC f…

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Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

r0ckarong wrote: post #7
Zealotux wrote: post #4

Such systems are designed and fine-tuned over decades of sometimes hard-learned lessons. This is not meant as a political comment, but people will likely die as a result of this.

As intended, then you can blame the previous system for all the failures.

I mean the previous systems do need an overhaul, but that should be and is being done slowly and meticulously. The SpaceX people - whoever they are - will have the credentials to design a new system I'm sure, but probably not without breaking things for years to come.

And they can't just rip it out and replace it, that would likely cripple airlines. Which may be by design of course, but why would they want their own people to no longer be able to fly?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by jillyboel »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #3

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

> Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC

According to Trump, yes. This is what he said:

> When I land in my plane, privately, I use a system from another country because...I won't tell you what country... because the captain says this system is so bad, it's so obsolete, that we can't have that.

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2025/02/06...

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

UrineSqueegee wrote: post #17

" Duffy said the team from SpaceX went to Virginia to “get a firsthand look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern and safer system.”" I don't understand how anyone can be reasonably against this? They are not going to just overhaul everything overnight, they are going to upgrade the system based on ATC f…

I mean sure, they can envision all they want, and I'm sure they're competent and experienced engineers. But don't let them change anything overnight.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by XzAeRosho »

gitfan86 wrote: post #27
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #3

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

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If things felt corrupt before, why not improve the processes? Why keep doing the same but with the companies the administration in turn likes the best?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by risyachka »

skrebbel wrote: post #12

I recognize that "Trump outrage" was passé before his term even started, but can we call it out? This is called "corruption", there's no other word for it. President giving sweet gigs to his cronies, just like in Russia and Hungary.

Yeah everyone suddenly has no balls to say anything to Trump.

Congress, courts - silence.

Everyone suddenly is afraid to speak. Pretty sad.

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