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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#31
post #19

If what they say is true, then you have to give them credit for catching up incredibly fast. And slightly pulling ahead. Not only with the models, but also products.

And they mentioned at the end of the presentation that they're already planning their next datacenter, which will require 5x the power. Not sure if that means equivalent to ~1,000,000 of the current GPU's, or more because next-gen Nvidia chips are more efficient.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#32
post #25

Grok 3 at the top of Chatboat Arena with 1400, and the model will continue to improve as it trains more.

No idea why was this downvoted, but you are correct. Seems like the team at xAI caught up very quickly to OpenAI to be at the top of the leaderboard in one of the benchmarks and also caught up with features with Grok 3. Giving credit where credit is due, even though this is a race to zero.

We got more emotional and opinionated people on HN and they often reacted in an emotional way instead of using logic and being curious.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#33
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C27PlV_zijk

"It's like looking for groceries in a landfill."

(Yeah, you'll find some edible food but it takes time and meanwhile you're covered in garbage)

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#34
post #3

Looks impressive. OpenAI and Sam Altman might be cooked if its as capable as advertised.

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Doesn’t OpenAI claim their work will lead to artificial general intelligence? That seems like a much steeper gradient to climb.

Hype is the fuel that bootstraps fortunes in techtopia.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#35

They will open-source Grok 2 when Grok 3 comes out. Also it seems like it will be paywalled - disappointing considering DeepSeek-R1 is free and open source.

Yeah not sure what profit these guys think they'll be able to squeeze out of these models with open source and free clearly being 95% as good

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#38

We know RLHF and alignment degrades model quality. could it be that Grok, due to its less restrictive training guidelines (and the fact that its creators aren't afraid of getting sued), can achieve higher performance partly due to this simple factor?

> We know RLHF and alignment degrades model quality.

I feel you can't make statements like this without giving some sources.

IIUC, without RLHF/alignment, the model won't even be able to chat with you, it would just be a document completion engine.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#40
post #29

Will he do what he promised and open source Grok 2 now?

I'd expect them to open source it just like they did with Grok. We're still waiting for OpenAI to do the same. Even at least GPT-3.

> We're still waiting for OpenAI to do the same. Even at least GPT-3.

The exact details of OpenAI's models and training data are not fully disclosed, which can raise concerns about potential biases or vulnerabilities.

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