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Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by thaumasiotes »

FabHK wrote: post #28
petesergeant wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which dictionary are you using that doesn’t mark it as an archaic form in British English?

Merriam-Webster has it as "chiefly British spelling" of jail, and Oxford English Dictionary has it as a "variant". https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaol https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?q=gaol

More significantly, Collins just says "British a variant spelling of jail".

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/gaol

I believe Collins is the standard dictionary that British people use, much like Merriam-Webster for Americans.

Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by ggm »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #26
ggm wrote: post #18

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Only Americans (to the extent I know) differentiate jail and gaol. Jail and prison. I first read gaol in a 1960s kids book by Randolph Snow. An Australian as it happens. https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/1496448

> Only Americans (to the extent I know) differentiate jail and gaol. Jail and prison. You inhabit a very different reality than everybody else. Americans do not differentiate jail and gaol; Americans don't use the word "gaol" under any circumstances, ever. It is not a part of American English.

I apologise for mixing terms. Jail and Prison? Do you disagree this is a point of difference? Americans also don't seem to talk about being on remand. In police custody is unwieldy, I agree.

Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by II2II »

kragen wrote: post #17
transcriptase wrote: post #14

It’s interesting reading that the reasons for jailbreaking a kindle are so trivial, amounting to adding some minor functionality to reading books and not much else. Kobo jailbreaks from back in the day gave you root on a stripped down Linux install, complete with telnet ssh and ftp. You could even install python and essentially do anything the cpu/display permitted. Another cool aspect with those older kobos was that…

Don't Kobo jailbreaks still give you that? Are they even "jailbreaks"?

Yes, you can still do that. The only differences with modern Kobo devices are the loss of an external uSD slot and, on the latest modeks, the liss of the internal uSD slot.

I also have a hard time describing the process as jail breaking. Updates to the Kobo are simply unprotected zip files which contain firmware updates along with a gzipped tarball that contain updated files for the filesystem. Anyone with a knowledge of Linux can modify the software.

Ibalso consider the situation as rather stable. Not only has Kobo/Rakuten been ignoring modifications of the open source components for over a decade, they have been ignoring patches to the proprietary binaries.

Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by singingfish »

mvdtnz wrote: post #29
dgfitz wrote: post #12

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So “gaol” is supposedly an alternative way to spell “jail” that I first encountered in a video game. I keep seeing “tyre” on here too. I guess hn is hipster for alternative spellings.

"Tyre" is extremely common throughout most of the English speaking world. "Gaol" is used by attention-seeking Australians desperately hoping to kick off dumb threads like this.

Tyre is clearly the correct spelling. I quickly tire of anyone claiming otherwise. Gaol is an archaic spelling which I've found incredibly confusing ever since I was a small kid a long long time ago.

Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by emmelaich »

mvdtnz wrote: post #29
dgfitz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So “gaol” is supposedly an alternative way to spell “jail” that I first encountered in a video game. I keep seeing “tyre” on here too. I guess hn is hipster for alternative spellings.

"Tyre" is extremely common throughout most of the English speaking world. "Gaol" is used by attention-seeking Australians desperately hoping to kick off dumb threads like this.

In Australia, gaol is far more common than jail. Neither are used anymore really. It's more often just prison or penitentiary.

Some of Australia's more popular historical sites are old gaols.

Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by int_19h »

ggm wrote: post #32
thaumasiotes wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Only Americans (to the extent I know) differentiate jail and gaol. Jail and prison. You inhabit a very different reality than everybody else. Americans do not differentiate jail and gaol; Americans don't use the word "gaol" under any circumstances, ever. It is not a part of American English.

I apologise for mixing terms. Jail and Prison? Do you disagree this is a point of difference? Americans also don't seem to talk about being on remand. In police custody is unwieldy, I agree.

"jail" and "prison" are the American English words in question.

Although that distinction is rarely relevant in casual conversation in practice. People say "jail" and mean "prison" all the time.

Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by int_19h »

singingfish wrote: post #34
mvdtnz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Tyre" is extremely common throughout most of the English speaking world. "Gaol" is used by attention-seeking Australians desperately hoping to kick off dumb threads like this.

Tyre is clearly the correct spelling. I quickly tire of anyone claiming otherwise. Gaol is an archaic spelling which I've found incredibly confusing ever since I was a small kid a long long time ago.

Tyre is clearly the correct spelling for the city in Lebanon. ~

Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by mvdtnz »

emmelaich wrote: post #35
mvdtnz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Tyre" is extremely common throughout most of the English speaking world. "Gaol" is used by attention-seeking Australians desperately hoping to kick off dumb threads like this.

In Australia, gaol is far more common than jail. Neither are used anymore really. It's more often just prison or penitentiary. Some of Australia's more popular historical sites are old gaols.

I know, I lived in Australia for 5 years. That doesn't change the fact of my post - that in a thread about jailbreaking kindles, it's nothing but attention-seeking bait to use the term.

Re: All Kindles can now be jailbroken

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Post by fvrther »

Kobo are giving you root access with telnet from the start. You can flash modded firmwares, change the backend servers to phone your own calibre-web instance, install ssh, koreader and even a tailscale vpn on it. They even have UART pins labelled on their board. These are amazing devices to play with. And they read pretty much everything you throw on their storage: epub, cbz, cbr, pdf..
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