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Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

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Re: Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

#31

whats the point of this? serious question - can someone provide usecases for this?

It is shown running on 2 or 4 raspberry pis; the point is that you can add more (ordinary, non GPU) hardware for faster inference. It's a distributed system. The sky is the limit.

Re: Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

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post #4

This continues the pattern of all other announcements of running 'Deepseek R1' on raspberry pi - that they are running llama (or qwen), modified by deepseek's distillation technique.

Yes this is just a fine-tuned LLaMa with DeepSeek-like "chain of thought" generation. A properly 'distilled' model is supposed to be trained from scratch to completely mimick the larger model it's being derived from - which is not what's going on here.

Re: Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

#34
post #31

whats the point of this? serious question - can someone provide usecases for this?

It is shown running on 2 or 4 raspberry pis; the point is that you can add more (ordinary, non GPU) hardware for faster inference. It's a distributed system. The sky is the limit.

ah, Thanks! but what can a distributed system like this do? is this a fun to do, for the sake of doing it project or does it have practical applications? just curious about applicability thats all.

Re: Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

#35
post #2

This is the modern Beowulf cluster.

I honestly don't understand the meme with RPi clusters. For a little more money than 4 RPi 5's, you can find on eBay a 1U Dell server with a 32 core Epyc CPU and 64 GB memory. This gives you at least an order of magnitude more performance.

If people want to talk about Beowulf clusters in their homelab, they should at least be running compute nodes with a shoestring budget FDR Infiniband network, running Slurm+Lustre or k8s+OpenStack+Ceph or some other goodness. Spare me this doesnt-even-scale-linearly-to-four-slowass-nodes BS.

Re: Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

#36
post #31

whats the point of this? serious question - can someone provide usecases for this?

It is shown running on 2 or 4 raspberry pis; the point is that you can add more (ordinary, non GPU) hardware for faster inference. It's a distributed system. The sky is the limit.

It doesn't even scale linearly to 4 nodes. It's slower than a five year old gaming computer. There is definitely a hard limit on performance to be had from this approach.

Re: Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

#37
post #4

This continues the pattern of all other announcements of running 'Deepseek R1' on raspberry pi - that they are running llama (or qwen), modified by deepseek's distillation technique.

I really don't like that these models can be branded as Deepseek R1.

Well, Deepseek trained them?

Re: Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

#38
post #2

This is the modern Beowulf cluster.

I honestly don't understand the meme with RPi clusters. For a little more money than 4 RPi 5's, you can find on eBay a 1U Dell server with a 32 core Epyc CPU and 64 GB memory. This gives you at least an order of magnitude more performance. If people want to talk about Beowulf clusters in their homelab, they should at least be running compute nodes with a shoestring budget FDR Infiniband network, running Slurm+Lustre…

The TDP of 4 PIs combined is still smaller than a larger server, which is probably the whole point of such an experiment?

Re: Deepseek R1 Distill 8B Q40 on 4 x Raspberry Pi 5

#39

Can’t you run larger models easily on MacBook Pro laptops with the bigger memory options? I think I read that people are getting 100 tokens a second on 70B models.

I find 100tps unlikely, I see 13tps on an 80GB A100 for a 70B 4bit quantized model.

Can you link - I am answering an email on monday where this info would be very useful!

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