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Re: Jane Street's Figgie card game

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Post by 999900000999 »

_fat_santa wrote: post #24
xrd wrote: post #7

I downloaded the app to try it. It's interesting, appears that you can join a game with other players? I see two tabs: "4 starting" and "12 active" But clicking on these had no effect until suddenly the overflow broke rendering. I am fascinated by this app mostly because it has a recruiting message at the bottom from Jane Street. I've never seen that before. But, it's also interesting because it is one of the more po…

Given that Jane Street's prowess is in OCaml, I'm more inclined to give them grace when trying to release a React Native app. RN is one of those languages/frameworks that is both very easy to get into and also incredibly difficult to make a polished app.

RN barely works even if you're an experienced JS dev.

Something is just messed up with it, maybe it's fixed now but 2 weeks ago I tried to build an Expo app and the default template just doesn't build on android. Known issue on GitHub.

Everything is jerryrigged together. Flutter is what RN should of been, but Google doesn't seem to really care about it. Why one company needs multi cross platform frameworks, with multiple languages... I'll never know.

Re: Jane Street's Figgie card game

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Post by JoshTriplett »

dfxm12 wrote: post #16
dmurray wrote: post #8

This game seems like it shouldn't work playing one-off games with no money on the line. How do you win in that context - by ending up with the most money at the end of the game? That would change the gameplay very significantly - a strategy that has you end with $1000 one time in three and 0 the rest should be favoured over one where you end up with $300 every time. Poker solves this with poker tournaments: everyone…

A single hand of poker without wagering makes no sense at all. There are a lot of variations of poker. Playing single hands of, for example, five card draw makes sense without wagering.

That's true, but it's not very fun. A series of hands in which you determine how heavily to invest allows strategy to control for randomness. A single-hand five-card-draw showdown is a single decision about which cards to replace, and is largely determined by the shuffle, and the single bit of strategy "how many cards did the people before me ask for".

Re: Jane Street's Figgie card game

#35

Post by xrd »

999900000999 wrote: post #31
_fat_santa wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that Jane Street's prowess is in OCaml, I'm more inclined to give them grace when trying to release a React Native app. RN is one of those languages/frameworks that is both very easy to get into and also incredibly difficult to make a polished app.

RN barely works even if you're an experienced JS dev. Something is just messed up with it, maybe it's fixed now but 2 weeks ago I tried to build an Expo app and the default template just doesn't build on android. Known issue on GitHub. Everything is jerryrigged together. Flutter is what RN should of been, but Google doesn't seem to really care about it. Why one company needs multi cross platform frameworks, with mult…

I agree about RN.

But not about flutter. I just used aider to code a brand new flutter app from scratch. It has Google login. And a webview on a second screen. It looks gorgeous and is performant. And deploying it to my android device from within the aider session worked flawlessly.

Re: Jane Street's Figgie card game

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Post by 999900000999 »

xrd wrote: post #35
999900000999 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RN barely works even if you're an experienced JS dev. Something is just messed up with it, maybe it's fixed now but 2 weeks ago I tried to build an Expo app and the default template just doesn't build on android. Known issue on GitHub. Everything is jerryrigged together. Flutter is what RN should of been, but Google doesn't seem to really care about it. Why one company needs multi cross platform frameworks, with mult…

I agree about RN. But not about flutter. I just used aider to code a brand new flutter app from scratch. It has Google login. And a webview on a second screen. It looks gorgeous and is performant. And deploying it to my android device from within the aider session worked flawlessly.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/01/google-lays-off-staff-from...

Google did a major cut to its flutter team last year. It's a great framework, I've used it for several projects. But I doubt it's future...

Re: Jane Street's Figgie card game

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Post by The_Blade »

vessenes wrote: post #5
notpushkin wrote: post #4

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Sort the deck ino 4 stacks by suit, have somebody else remove the cards without looking at the suits, shuffle stacks back into a deck.

Yes. I think you’d want half the players to watch the stack placement and half the removal and rearrangement. Lots of incentive to peek.

I get that Diplomacy feeling where if you pull off cheating, good, it's part of the game. Like insider trading, or when I'd play the banker in monopoly and sleight-of-hand. Ledgerdemain, if you will

Re: Jane Street's Figgie card game

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Post by kqr »

lordnacho wrote: post #25

This reminds me of how I got my first job in trading. They had all the candidates going around doing various gimmicks like mental arithmetic. But one of the things we had to do was a trading game where you had to get a set of some commodity by trading your cards with other candidates. So just a screaming pit of kids trying to declare what they wanted to swap for. I got dealt a ridiculously good hand, and all I had to…

> But one of the things we had to do was a trading game where you had to get a set of some commodity by trading your cards with other candidates. So just a screaming pit of kids trying to declare what they wanted to swap for.

This is Pit, right? I remember it from an Aaron Brown book. Always wanted to try it!

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/140/pit

Re: Jane Street's Figgie card game

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Post by HelloNurse »

999900000999 wrote: post #31
_fat_santa wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that Jane Street's prowess is in OCaml, I'm more inclined to give them grace when trying to release a React Native app. RN is one of those languages/frameworks that is both very easy to get into and also incredibly difficult to make a polished app.

RN barely works even if you're an experienced JS dev. Something is just messed up with it, maybe it's fixed now but 2 weeks ago I tried to build an Expo app and the default template just doesn't build on android. Known issue on GitHub. Everything is jerryrigged together. Flutter is what RN should of been, but Google doesn't seem to really care about it. Why one company needs multi cross platform frameworks, with mult…

React Native is easy to be tempted into using. It's clever in all the wrong ways, from opaquely ad hoc code transformations to a perennial flux of unfinished transitions between old and new designs for the same things; it's popular and from Facebook; it does its job well enough to convince many developers that malfunctions, bugs and general misery are either an accident or their fault, they just need to hack a little.

Re: Jane Street's Figgie card game

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Post by pjmlp »

xrd wrote: post #7

I downloaded the app to try it. It's interesting, appears that you can join a game with other players? I see two tabs: "4 starting" and "12 active" But clicking on these had no effect until suddenly the overflow broke rendering. I am fascinated by this app mostly because it has a recruiting message at the bottom from Jane Street. I've never seen that before. But, it's also interesting because it is one of the more po…

From the screenshots this is the kind of stuff that could have been a Web game.
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