russians are wining the cold war. They have successfully compromised US from within.
Russian already lost Cold War long time ago.
looking a lot more like we only thought we won
Elon Musk's DOGE Posts Classified Data on Its New Website
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#32russians are wining the cold war. They have successfully compromised US from within.
I think it's so wild as to be unbelievable by most people. It's the same reason the climate crisis is denied by so many people - because it seems so scary as to be unthinkable so they mentally categorize it as fiction or propaganda.
The US has long been the leader in pure military force. The Russians, however, discovered that the way to defeat this is from within - with psychological manipulation. A bomb goes off and instantly destroys everything around it. This weapon, however, is just as powerful but works very slowly and methodically.
I think it goes something like this: Putin knows he needs to get to Trump. To get to Trump, he needs to find a person that has shown that they posses a mind to get what they want and also has the one thing that makes them a god in Trump's eyes. Elon is the perfect target, as he has both - he's the richest man alive, meaning Trump worships him and he has the financial power and mindset to enact real change. I think it's entirely possible that Putin and Russian intelligence figured out how to get into Elon's mind and radicalize him (he has several known conversations with Putin himself), using him as a puppet to get to the white house. All of the ideas this guy and his entourage are parroting mirror the ideas of one person - the greatest enemy of democracy in the world - Putin.
I'm not some conspiracy theorist. In fact I hate it and am proudly banned from the conspiracy subreddit for informing them that they're all delusional. That said, I truly believe this is really happening. Unless this is immediately stopped, this will lead to the darkest period in the history of the modern world.
I wonder what are the chances that a group within the US Government intelligence communities recognizes what's going on here and is monitoring it?
Re: Elon Musk's DOGE Posts Classified Data on Its New Website
#33"Who’s working for Elon Musk’s DOGE?" - https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/14/doge-empl...
I am so sick of these media sites putting information that is critical to the free world behind a paywall so they can make their money above all. This is information that NEEDS to be known, and the media is a massive part of the problem for doing this.
Re: Elon Musk's DOGE Posts Classified Data on Its New Website
#34Is that a crime? I imagine it's a crime if you have a security clearance. But as far as I'm aware these guys never promised not to give away classified information. Of course they can be pardoned, and they don't even need a pardon if the Justice Department decides not to prosecute. But just as a matter of idle curiosity, has any law actually be violated?
> has any law actually be violated?
Any revelation of classified information to uncleared people violates the law; if DOGE staff were cleared it was illegal for them to reveal it, if they weren't it was illegal for them to be given access to it in the first place (which they must have had in order to reveal it).
Additionally, there are crimes for gathering and revealing sensitive national security information irrespective of having clearance, these are found in the Espionage Act. Julian Assange’s crime didn't involve him having clearance.
Re: Elon Musk's DOGE Posts Classified Data on Its New Website
#35Is that a crime? I imagine it's a crime if you have a security clearance. But as far as I'm aware these guys never promised not to give away classified information. Of course they can be pardoned, and they don't even need a pardon if the Justice Department decides not to prosecute. But just as a matter of idle curiosity, has any law actually be violated?
It’s not a crime because POTUS can post-facto declassify it, so that when Musk posted it, it was declassified.
Re: Elon Musk's DOGE Posts Classified Data on Its New Website
#36russians are wining the cold war. They have successfully compromised US from within.
I think it's so wild as to be unbelievable by most people. It's the same reason the climate crisis is denied by so many people - because it seems so scary as to be unthinkable so they mentally categorize it as fiction or propaganda. The US has long been the leader in pure military force. The Russians, however, discovered that the way to defeat this is from within - with psychological manipulation. A bomb goes off and…
It’s really much more simple and banal than that. The fact is, Trump and Musk are just a pure distillation of our narcissistic culture. Their venality is the venality of our society. None of this would be possible without the public’s buy-in. Fact of the matter is we did this to ourselves, we are a sick society, and Putin just got lucky.
If you want to frame it Cold War terms tho, you could say Capitalism turned out the same as Communism, just took longer. In the end no one won the war.