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DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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As a European this is just so terrifying and fascinating to watch at the same time. I really wonder (and hope for the best) what comes out of all this. With Trump and Musk and this agency that isn't one and all the presidential orders. Will we look at this some time later and think "well, that was really stupid, do not try again" or will the world burn down over this? Crazy times.

As a European, DOGE looks incredible. Saving tonnes of money - wish we had the same in Europe instead of extortionate taxes and a failing welfare state.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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post #5

As a European this is just so terrifying and fascinating to watch at the same time. I really wonder (and hope for the best) what comes out of all this. With Trump and Musk and this agency that isn't one and all the presidential orders. Will we look at this some time later and think "well, that was really stupid, do not try again" or will the world burn down over this? Crazy times.

As another European it amuses me that Europe cannot give up this smug attitude and keeps looking at the US in such a condescending way. Meanwhile Europe has been in freefall for a decade and nobody here seems to notice.

Compared to the US the EU falls much slower

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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post #30

> DOGE is also working with a FEMA IT Specialist and a grant director, according to Drop Site’s reporting. “Everyone is complying. Everyone is afraid to lose their jobs,” sources within FEMA told Drop Site. They describe the situation as FEMA employees following a “chain of command and that leads to DOGE even though they’re not part of it.” This is how a democracy slowly falls into fascism. Not because it's a overnig…

I think there's value of having good people there when the trump administration is gone.

Having those people quit is effectively part of the current administration's plans.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

Look for politicians (in your district and state) who are already active, pick the one who seems to be not a useless parrot (but also not someone who doesn't get the big picture), and ask them how can you help them, how can you support their efforts.

The good playbook consists of rebooting the D party. (Which lost the election because it did not understand what the majority wants, and how to authentically offer something that is close enough.)

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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The security and intelligence apparatus made bet big that they could prevent a second trump election, after quite successfully destabilising the first -- they failed. And now the very system of unaccountable executive power which has been built up, is now being used against the executive itself. This makes me increasingly concerned for a similar turn of events in the UK (ie., given the many actions of the UK state to…

> the very system of unaccountable executive power which has been built up, is now being used against the executive itself

Musk is a fever dream incorporated by its own paranoia. There was never a deep state as potent and destructive (to say nothing of incompetent) as DOGE.

The problem with its illegality is twofold. On one hand, this will be a multibillion-dollar process to undo. If it persists, it means the next D President can just order the Treasury to e.g. shred student loan records and wire money to whomever they want and ignore anything the Congress or courts do. (If there is no next D President, we shift to an imperial playbook and it will be good living for anyone already rich and really bad for anyone who isn’t.)

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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If they would rather lean into bureaucratic evils like TSA with similar ferociousness (and saving hundreds of millions or even billions easily), they would get some points to burn on unpopular fascist moves. But no lets target the weakest in society, for sure easy targets with little to defend themselves.
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