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A Year of Telepathy

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Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by ben_w »

tmnvdb wrote: post #30
ben_w wrote: post #21

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Given the security track record of software in general, not even specifically those of Musk's companies but more broadly zero-days in all the major platforms, I would worry about a scenario half way between the plot of the film Upgrade and the long-standing trope of using hypnosis to turn someone into an unwitting assassin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upgrade_(film)

It seems easy to worry about somewhat far-fetched scenarios like this when one is not paralyzed and thus not making a trade-off between risks and a fully paralyzed life.

The tech itself is far-fetched; that hackers exploit vulnerabilities in every system is not, rather it is so common you can measure attempts in Herz.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by SrslyJosh »

losvedir wrote: post #28
soVeryTired wrote: post #23

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I think people who (still) support him don't think it was a sieg heil, and just chalk it up as an awkward gesture. Personally, I can't imagine why he would throw one, so a priori it seems like an unlikely gesture, though I admit it's strange what he does in the video I saw. The most awkward part of it is the beginning of the gesture where he clutches his chest like he's having a heart attack. I've tried searching for…

An "awkward gesture" that has no other meaning in western culture. Which he made twice. It's not something you can do by accident.

> I can't imagine why he would throw one

That's pretty naive. He's a white south african who recently said that Germany's furthest-right party should "get over" being guilty about what the nazis did.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by liveoneggs »

losvedir wrote: post #28
soVeryTired wrote: post #23

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I think people who (still) support him don't think it was a sieg heil, and just chalk it up as an awkward gesture. Personally, I can't imagine why he would throw one, so a priori it seems like an unlikely gesture, though I admit it's strange what he does in the video I saw. The most awkward part of it is the beginning of the gesture where he clutches his chest like he's having a heart attack. I've tried searching for…

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Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by Veserv »

losvedir wrote: post #28
soVeryTired wrote: post #23

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I think people who (still) support him don't think it was a sieg heil, and just chalk it up as an awkward gesture. Personally, I can't imagine why he would throw one, so a priori it seems like an unlikely gesture, though I admit it's strange what he does in the video I saw. The most awkward part of it is the beginning of the gesture where he clutches his chest like he's having a heart attack. I've tried searching for…

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Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by TheMiddleMan »

vermilingua wrote: post #19
TheMiddleMan wrote: post #16

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Not everyone has the precise same definition of hate, and you know what they ^ mean. Elon used to be all about truly advancing society, now he only seems interested in gaining wealth and power.

Elon used to appear to be all about truly advancing society; his motivations haven't changed, his PR strategy has.

You might be right but consider these old talks:

Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species (2016) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Uyfqi_TE8

Elon Musk talks Climate Change and Carbon Tax at the Sorbone 2015 https://youtu.be/sUFwwlmxRsw?t=978

It could be that he was just following the trends knowing there was money to be made, but I detect some real passion back in these videos.

Of course no motivation comes from a single source and there's some mix of philanthropy and money driving this, among other motivations.

Either way his tone has changed a lot, to say the least.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by defrost »

hagbard_c wrote: post #37
soVeryTired wrote: post #23

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Highly selective stills from low angles don't negate the full video dynamics of Musk's edgelord nazi salute. Nor the one that followed less than a minute later.

Musk visited Auschwitz-Birkenau to try and regain PR points after boosting and reposting actual Nazi and alt-right content. It didn't work and it fooled no one. Except, apparrently, yourself.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by roenxi »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #32
losvedir wrote: post #28

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I think people who (still) support him don't think it was a sieg heil, and just chalk it up as an awkward gesture. Personally, I can't imagine why he would throw one, so a priori it seems like an unlikely gesture, though I admit it's strange what he does in the video I saw. The most awkward part of it is the beginning of the gesture where he clutches his chest like he's having a heart attack. I've tried searching for…

An "awkward gesture" that has no other meaning in western culture. Which he made twice. It's not something you can do by accident. > I can't imagine why he would throw one That's pretty naive. He's a white south african who recently said that Germany's furthest-right party should "get over" being guilty about what the nazis did.

It appears it is something one can do by accident; Musk did. We seem to have here an accusation by insinuation that Musk is adhering to an ideology which he clearly does not hold. It isn't obvious what the anti-Muskians want done about this. It puts me in mind of when people were calling Trump a liar while he was on campaign - apparently unaware that he was running for political office! I suppose in the end when Mexico didn't pay for the wall they felt a sense of vindication.

I can understand partisan politics, but this is just sillyness. Can there at least be actionable accusations made?

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by Funes- »

liveoneggs wrote: post #33
losvedir wrote: post #28

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I think people who (still) support him don't think it was a sieg heil, and just chalk it up as an awkward gesture. Personally, I can't imagine why he would throw one, so a priori it seems like an unlikely gesture, though I admit it's strange what he does in the video I saw. The most awkward part of it is the beginning of the gesture where he clutches his chest like he's having a heart attack. I've tried searching for…

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True. I'll get downvoted to oblivion, I guess, but anyone who says that's a nazi salute is either unironically retarded or extremely dishonest. I want nothing to do with either one of those kinds of people.
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