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Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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basically bring your own domain like Google Workspace or O365. I'd love to see the Mastodon project (or any other AP implementation) adopt that managed services model.

I don't believe there is anything stopping someone from starting a managed Mastodon service.

Isn't that what masto.host does anyway?

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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I don't believe there is anything stopping someone from starting a managed Mastodon service.

Isn't that what masto.host does anyway?

- masto.host

- mastodon.green

- social.lol

- communick.com

- cloud68.co

- elest.io

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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It depends on the server operator. Threads was preemptively shitlisted just for thinking of connecting to Fediverse, because a lot of instance admins are ActivityPub or Mastodon maximalists[0] and believed that everyone would just flock over to Threads immediately. Then it was shitlisted again because Mark Zuckerberg started zucking on Trump, and decided to take their already threadbare moderation team and tie their…

Regarding [1], do you foresee this changing at some point? I'm interested in self hosting, bit have heard consistently that it is painful, so I've been waiting in the hopes that it will eventually improve.

Hosting Mastodon is as difficult as deploying a traditional web app: if you are familiar with docker, it's just a matter of choosing where you are going to put your database, redis and where to store media.

The problem is that it is expensive. Even if you host on a cheap VPS and put your media on some object storage like Storj (~$4/TB/month), you are problably looking at a minimum of $20/month for the server. If you get for yourself, maybe your friends and stay under 50 users, fine.

If you get more than that then you'll need a beefier server, and if any of users follows lots of media-heavy accounts and does not set it up to delete old posts, your object storage will be full very quick.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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>Its federated model is not meant to give control to the end user. Can you elaborate on this? I would think giving control to the end user is exactly what a federated model would do.

It gives control to the node operator. You join a node on the basis that you like the operator and trust them to federate responsibly. The end user is along for the ride with the node operator.

That's not how it works in the case of WordPress though, in this case it's not posting to some account on someone else's instance, each blog is it's own ActivityPub instance (as they just add support for the ActivityPub endpoints to the existing hosting)

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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post #14

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basically bring your own domain like Google Workspace or O365. I'd love to see the Mastodon project (or any other AP implementation) adopt that managed services model.

I don't believe there is anything stopping someone from starting a managed Mastodon service.

It’s absurdly expensive to offer, because none of the major implementations support serving multiple domains in a single process, so you end up with a lot of duplication.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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post #14

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basically bring your own domain like Google Workspace or O365. I'd love to see the Mastodon project (or any other AP implementation) adopt that managed services model.

I don't believe there is anything stopping someone from starting a managed Mastodon service.

I mean specifically, I'd like to see the actual Mastodon organization (Eugen Rochko's team now that they're a legit nonprofit) take that role. Or any other fedi software project tbh, doesn't need to be Mastodon themselves.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Regarding [1], do you foresee this changing at some point? I'm interested in self hosting, bit have heard consistently that it is painful, so I've been waiting in the hopes that it will eventually improve.

Hosting Mastodon is as difficult as deploying a traditional web app: if you are familiar with docker, it's just a matter of choosing where you are going to put your database, redis and where to store media. The problem is that it is expensive. Even if you host on a cheap VPS and put your media on some object storage like Storj (~$4/TB/month), you are problably looking at a minimum of $20/month for the server. If you…

Regarding the object store: I use DigitalOcean’s Spaces, and it runs me about $9/mo. I have about 4K users. It doesn’t have to be expensive.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Isn't that what masto.host does anyway?

- masto.host - mastodon.green - social.lol - communick.com - cloud68.co - elest.io

I couldn’t come up with a list of URLs I’d be less likely to trust with anything without visiting them.
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