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Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service

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Post by palata »

didgeoridoo wrote: post #7
LorenDB wrote: post #3

Permanent, until they go out of business. We should just standardize on archive.org and figure out a way to distribute redundant copies of its data around in such a way that it can survive even if the original Internet Archive goes down. I hate to push blockchain stuff, but something like IPFS might actually be a good idea here.

It’s run by the Harvard Law Library (i.e. backed by a multibillion-dollar university that is substantially older than the country it’s located in) and operated as a decentralized network across multiple public and private library systems. Like any service, it might shut down due to lack of interest, but I doubt Harvard Law is at risk of “going out of business”.

> I doubt Harvard Law is at risk of “going out of business”.

Wait until they publicly criticise Musk.

Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service

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Post by ZeWaka »

true_religion wrote: post #15
dylan604 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Please note that this is a statement of Perma.cc’s present intent in the event the project winds down. Perma.cc may revise or amend this page at any time. Nothing on this page is intended to, nor may it be read to, create a legal or contractual right for users or obligation for Perma.cc, under the Perma.cc Terms of Use or otherwise." So, yeah, nothing is different than anyone else, other than they have a "cunning pl…

You can’t actually create a contractual right without consideration and they appear to be a free service. They can only promise to do their best.

They're not an entirely free service, no: https://perma.cc/sign-up

> New users are able to create ten free links on a trial basis. After using the trial, individuals must either be affiliated with a registrar or sign up for a paid subscription.

Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service

#33

Post by pluto_modadic »

bananapub wrote: post #8

95% of the work for a useful product like this is figuring out how to ensure it survives your dumb business model or the idiocy of the tech industry, and yet none of the words on this landing page explain what work they've done on that. did they not understand that at all? did they just not do any work on it? or did they understand it and do great work but just fail to but it in 100pt text as item 0 on the list? who…

...don't judge a project by its landing page. Especially if it's as well run as this one, by the looks of it.

Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service

#34

Post by Andrew6rant »

didgeoridoo wrote: post #7
LorenDB wrote: post #3

Permanent, until they go out of business. We should just standardize on archive.org and figure out a way to distribute redundant copies of its data around in such a way that it can survive even if the original Internet Archive goes down. I hate to push blockchain stuff, but something like IPFS might actually be a good idea here.

It’s run by the Harvard Law Library (i.e. backed by a multibillion-dollar university that is substantially older than the country it’s located in) and operated as a decentralized network across multiple public and private library systems. Like any service, it might shut down due to lack of interest, but I doubt Harvard Law is at risk of “going out of business”.

There honestly might be a greater chance of something happening to the .cc domain (like what's happening now with .io)

Harvard has a much larger population than the Cocos islands, I don't know why this project decided to rely on a country code tld

Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service

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Post by lolinder »

Heads up that the .cc TLD is frequently used for malicious purposes and will likely get blocked by a lot of networks.

When I've worked on spam prevention in the past, that TLD always comes up disproportionately often. I've never personally built a filter that blocks the entire TLD, but I'm sure from looking at the data that people with stricter compliance requirements have.

The Anti-Phishing Working Group ranked the TLD the second-worst in the ratio of phishing domains to total registrations, with the highest total volume of phishing (page 13):

https://docs.apwg.org//reports/APWG_Global_Phishing_Report_2...

Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service

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Post by hombre_fatal »

The diagram of link rot is depressing.

I used the same unique online alias from age ten to eighteen.

I used to be able to google it and see hundreds of results. Dozens of forums I posted on. Dozens of games I played. In my twenties, I'd do this for the nostalgia of reading posts I'd written in my preteen era.

Now, there are just seven results.

Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service

#39

Post by mynameisvlad »

itscrush wrote: post #20
mynameisvlad wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's run by the Harvard Law School Library and a consortium of libraries worldwide. Why does it need financial information specifically to argue they're in the ten year business? Them being run by a library that is older than you and everyone else here is worth a lot more than a random company's 10-year funding plan.

The tld it's dependent on doesn't fall within these parameters. They also don't own and operate the .cc TLD do they?

How does being backed by financial information magically make that constraint go away?

Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service

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Post by mynameisvlad »

mcny wrote: post #19
mynameisvlad wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's run by the Harvard Law School Library and a consortium of libraries worldwide. Why does it need financial information specifically to argue they're in the ten year business? Them being run by a library that is older than you and everyone else here is worth a lot more than a random company's 10-year funding plan.

To play the devil's advocate, the library can exist for ten thousand years more but it is still possible it will drop perma.cc project when they get a new director, right?

Any hypothetical is possible, sure. But every single library in the consortium dropping the project is a massive stretch of hypotheticals.
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