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Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
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Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#32Before I decided my opinion on this I need to know their ratio.
Article states: Meta also allegedly modified settings "so that the smallest amount of seeding possible could occur"
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
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Not that I have any particular sympathy for the guy, but could we keep the tone a bit more civil around here? HN is one of the few bastions of grounded discussion on the internet, and I’d prefer to keep it that way.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#34Eye for an eye. Meta losses rights to 81.7 TB of IP. Transcribed into a text file
Meta already does that to themselves every year or so, deleting all internal communications. They've thrown away a huge amount of communication to source code commit reinforcement training data as a result. They do it to avoid emails making it into trials like this.
> Meta already does that to themselves every year or so, deleting all internal communications.
Aren't they obligated by law to keep all internal communication?
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#35Beyond illegal downloading and distribution of copyrighted content, the article also describes how Meta staff seemingly lied about it in depositions (including, potentially, Mark Zuckerberg himself).
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#36Remembering Aaron Swartz in this moment
Which was arguably more innocent — scientific papers.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#37Based on the encyclopedic knowledge LLMs have of written works I assume all parties did the same. But I think there is a broader point to make here. Youtube was initially a ghost town (it started as a dating site) and it only got traction once people started uploading copyrighted TV shows to it. Google itself got big by indexing other people's data without compensation. Spotify's music library was also pirated in the early days. The contracts with the music labels came later. GPL violations by commercial products fits the theme also.
Companies aggressively protect their own intellectual property but have no qualms about violating the IP rights of others. Companies. Individuals have no such privilege. If you plug a laptop into a closet at MIT to download some scientific papers you forfeit your life.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think they’re using picture heavy book for LLM training, no?
For multi-modal models, why not? They would be probably some of the best data.
Sometimes the PDF of a book is big because the book's packed with important illustrations and charts - like a textbook or journal paper.
Other times a PDF of a book is big because someone scanned it and didn't have trustworthy OCR, so they figured distributing images of text at 1.5 MB per page was better than risking OCR errors.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#39A good chance for federal prosectutors to "send a message" as they did with Aaron Swartz but I don't see things going that way.
Even after JSTOR declined to press charges in that case. Despicable. The US has dug the hole it's going down.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#40It really makes you think about those crazy internet folks from back in the day who thought copyright law was too strict and that restricting humanity to knowledge in such a way was holding us all back for the benefit of a tiny few.