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Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

milesrout wrote: post #25
lou1306 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is. Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physica…

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Didn't his vice president already suggest he should ignore the courts? Or did I imagine that?

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by bilekas »

anonzzzies wrote: post #15
maaaaattttt wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP but torrent would be my go to for a short term solution.

Torrent would do it but 16TB is still not that cheap to just have running in your house nas (otherwise I would).

Torrent would definitely be a great approach, 16TB is a commitment, but there's no problem with partial seeding also. I would choose selective chunks which consist of completed files.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by cyberlimerence »

Is anyone out there archiving USGS/NOAA datasets ? It sounds ridiculous, but this appears to be where we are now. There is a submission about NOAA on the frontpage now: "Scientists on alert as NOAA restricts contact with foreign nationals" [1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42970814

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by hypothesis »

milesrout wrote: post #25
lou1306 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is. Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physica…

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There is no need to lie, as this is easily verifiable, eg:

> A federal court on January 31 temporarily blocked the Trump administration’s government-wide pause on federal grant funding. But soon after, the administration argued the president’s directives were still in effect.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/billions-dollars-us-project...

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

milesrout wrote: post #27
black_puppydog wrote: post #5

Great to see there's some resistance. What I'm missing from this announcement though is any mention of how they intend to secure this "vault" against the current government. I'm assuming good intentions on the part of Harvard, but keeping this data online against the express will of the government is gonna cost (political) capital. And from what I can see, the archive is hosted by US entities on US-controlled servers…

>I'm assuming good intentions on the part of Harvard, but keeping this data online against the express will of the government is gonna cost (political) capital. Harvard like other liberal institutions has little to no political capital in a Republican white house in the first place. Why would it cost them any to host data that is in the public domain? This sort of silly overreaction is part of why people voted for Tr…

Maybe. He's already shipping illegal immigrants to a new concentration camp at Guantanamo bay.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by bilekas »

LadyCailin wrote: post #20
zombot wrote: post #19

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> ...how they intend to secure this "vault" against the current government. Yup, I was about to ask whether Trump could still force them to delete what he doesn't like. Time will tell, I guess.

In general, no. By withholding federal funds, and with owning congress and scotus, yes.

I'll admit I'm not privy to US educational system etc, but isn't Harvard a private university ? Why would they be receiving significant federal funds in the first place ?

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by IsTom »

anonzzzies wrote: post #15
maaaaattttt wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP but torrent would be my go to for a short term solution.

Torrent would do it but 16TB is still not that cheap to just have running in your house nas (otherwise I would).

You can download and share only selected parts of a torrent. With enough people you're going to get full coverage anyway.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by fs111 »

cyberlimerence wrote: post #33

Is anyone out there archiving USGS/NOAA datasets ? It sounds ridiculous, but this appears to be where we are now. There is a submission about NOAA on the frontpage now: "Scientists on alert as NOAA restricts contact with foreign nationals" [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42970814

ArchiveTeam is working on everything US-Government and you can help https://tracker.archiveteam.org/

https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/US_Government

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by lou1306 »

milesrout wrote: post #25
lou1306 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is. Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physica…

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Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by mongol »

globalnode wrote: post #22
lou1306 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is. Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physica…

Im predicting no more elections for you guys in 4 years. Something makes me think theres gonna be some "reason" to turn them off.

I am sure there will be elections. Question is how fair they will be. Have a look at Russia's recent presidential election. Putin "winning" it was a given from the start. US voters need to be mindful of all the ways an election can be rigged.
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