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Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#31
What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option.

I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions.

Edit: what I've learned through Googling: (1) if you search "is gemini advanced included with workspace" you get an AI overview answer that seems to be incorrect, since they now include Gemini Advanced (?) with every workspace subscription.(2) a page exists telling you to buy the add-on (Gemini for Google Workspace), but clicking on it says this is no longer available because of the above. (3) gemini.google.com says "Gemini Advanced" (no idea which model) at the top, but gemini.google.com/advanced redirects me to what I have deduced is the consumer site (?) which tells me that Gemini Advanced is another $20/month

The problem, Google PMs if you're reading this, is that the gemini.google.com page does not have ANY information about what is going on. What model is this? What are the limits? Do I get access to "Deep Research"? Does this subscription give me something in aistudio? What about code artifacts? The settings option tells me I can change to dark mode (thanks!).

Edit 2: I decided to use aistudio.google.com since it has a dropdown for me on my workspace plan.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#33
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly naming conventions in the AI world have been appalling regardless of the company

Google isn't even the worst in my opinion. From the top of my head Anthropic: Claude 1 Claude Instant 1 Claude 2 Claude Haiku 3 Claude Sonnet 3 Claude Opus 3 Claude Haiku 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5v2 OpenAI: GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1 o3-mini o1-mini Fun times when you try to setup throughput provisioning.

I don't understand why if they're gonna use shorthands to make the tech seem cooler, they can't at least use mnemonic shorthands.

Imagine if it went like this:

  Mnemonics: m(ini), r(easoning), t(echnical)

  Claude 3m
  Claude 3mr
  Claude 3mt
  Claude 3mtr
  Claude 3r
  Claude 3t
  Claude 3tr

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#35
I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics

We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there.

G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics.

Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili.

G then repeated form response and tried to change conversation, and as long as I didn't use the O word, we were allowed to proceed. Phew

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#39
These names are unbelievably bad. Flash, Flash-Lite? How do these AI companies keep doing this?

Sonnet 3.5 v2

o3-mini-high

Gemini Flash-Lite

It's like a competition to see who can make the goofiest naming conventions.

Regarding model quality, we experiment with Google models constantly at Rev and they are consistently the worst of all the major players. They always benchmark well and consistently fail in real tasks. If this is just a small update to the gemini-exp-1206 model, then I think they will still be in last place.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#40

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

hmm did you try clickin where it says 'gemini advanced'? I find it opens a drop down
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