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AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

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Re: AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

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I think AppFog needs to figure out their branding, with regards to how AppFog and PHPfog are perceived.

Is AppFog the parent company and PHPfog is a product of that company? Are they two separate brands/companies?

We're using PHPfog for our MVP of matchist (matchist.com). Does the new AppFog free plan apply to PHPfog too? I sure hope so, otherwise we just got screwed by this.

I think they need to be a bit more clear about this.

Re: AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

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post #16

They claim to support .NET. But after sign up and creating an app in "Step 1: Choose an application" i can not select any .NET "Application". So their .NET Support claim is essentially a lie ?

Not a lie, but definitely a misrepresentation of their true offerings.

Claiming support for a language on your front page does not mean "in private beta". It means you actually support that language.

Re: AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

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post #31

I think AppFog needs to figure out their branding, with regards to how AppFog and PHPfog are perceived. Is AppFog the parent company and PHPfog is a product of that company? Are they two separate brands/companies? We're using PHPfog for our MVP of matchist (matchist.com). Does the new AppFog free plan apply to PHPfog too? I sure hope so, otherwise we just got screwed by this. I think they need to be a bit more clear…

AppFog is the parent company. PHP Fog and AppFog are the two PaaS products that AppFog the company make and sell.

Re: AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

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post #8

This is nice, but i hope FREE lasts....

They're going to be explaining the business model tomorrow on their blog: https://twitter.com/appfog/status/228380656407826432

Right here: http://blog.appfog.com/if-paas-is-expensive-and-slow-why-not...

Re: AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

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post #28
post #7

Does this give me one VPS that I can resize up to 2GB without paying for? Can I launch multiple VPSs that are up to 2GB? If you are trying to say its not a VPS, I don't believe you. I bet it is at least built on some kind of virtualization. What is it exactly?

It's not in itself a VPS no, it's an "application environment", that's self contained and runs inside the Linux operating system. You can have multiple applications running over multiple instances, and Appfog handle all the deployment, scaling, and back-end management. Those Linux instances are hosted on one of multiple providers (your choice), for example Amazon, Rackspace, HP Cloud, etc.

I didn't ask if it was in itself a VPS. You know what I asked.

Thank you for giving me a little bit of an idea.

So basically, AppFrog launches VPSs with their own images on Rackspace or AWS for you, which you don't access directly. So back to my question.

Is there a button I can press to say that I want another 'instance' (= VPS)? If I press that button twice, can I get two 2GB instances? Or is there no way to ask for another instance directly, instead I deploy another app, and it will always just resize the instance up to 32GB at which point then it would finally deploy a new VPS?

I understand that hand-waving and magic is the way that you sell a 'cloud service'. I need more details about the mechanics of using it and also specific information about the implementation in order to evaluate it, however.

I mean not to be a dick, I think the idea of starting with 2GB of RAM for free is freaking amazing and the right direction to go.

Re: AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

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Im really not sure about the pricing model. Here are a couple of points: There are tons of people looking for $5 vps that have like 500mb on ram. Your pricing structure will be like a magnet for those type of people. I dont think may of those people will upgrade to a $100 a month plan though. As with the point above, you are relying to heavily on the people who have bought into the system at the free plan and now hav…

FYI, it's $0.15/GB for additional data transfer: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/appfog-users/UtTmKrxSTYA/d...

Re: AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

#37

Im really not sure about the pricing model. Here are a couple of points: There are tons of people looking for $5 vps that have like 500mb on ram. Your pricing structure will be like a magnet for those type of people. I dont think may of those people will upgrade to a $100 a month plan though. As with the point above, you are relying to heavily on the people who have bought into the system at the free plan and now hav…

FYI, it's $0.15/GB for additional data transfer: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/appfog-users/UtTmKrxSTYA/d...

It doesn't matter, even if the bandwidth was free. It is not stated anywhere so a potential customer will see that number and be less likely to buy the plan even if it is the smallest limitation.

Re: AppFog Wants To Do For Developer Platforms What Google Did For EMail

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post #35
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not in itself a VPS no, it's an "application environment", that's self contained and runs inside the Linux operating system. You can have multiple applications running over multiple instances, and Appfog handle all the deployment, scaling, and back-end management. Those Linux instances are hosted on one of multiple providers (your choice), for example Amazon, Rackspace, HP Cloud, etc.

I didn't ask if it was in itself a VPS. You know what I asked. Thank you for giving me a little bit of an idea. So basically, AppFrog launches VPSs with their own images on Rackspace or AWS for you, which you don't access directly. So back to my question. Is there a button I can press to say that I want another 'instance' (= VPS)? If I press that button twice, can I get two 2GB instances? Or is there no way to ask fo…

Yeah you can explicity launch multiple instances at your own control, each one uses the same amount of memory - so you could launch 10 instances with 200MB of RAM, or 1 instance with 2GB of RAM.

It's definitely worth signing up for, I've been using it for a couple of months and overall I've been impressed, though they still have too many glitches for me to be entirely happy deploying an important application to it.

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