I trialed Kagi.
I liked it, the results were good, no ads, gave me access to Google without being tracked.
I would pay for that, except they block Tor, and I normally use Tor.
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#32I trialed Kagi. I liked it, the results were good, no ads, gave me access to Google without being tracked. I would pay for that, except they block Tor, and I normally use Tor.
> gave me access to Google without being tracked
Hint: you can use Google in private mode. And unless you block all trackers almost all sites will still use analytics so Google knows what you read.
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#33I trialed Kagi. I liked it, the results were good, no ads, gave me access to Google without being tracked. I would pay for that, except they block Tor, and I normally use Tor.
> gave me access to Google without being tracked Hint: you can use Google in private mode. And unless you block all trackers almost all sites will still use analytics so Google knows what you read.
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#34Kagi is awesome, but the thought of having a limit led me to use it less and less and I eventually unsubscribed.
This is how I think about unlimited data plans haha. I think a rate limit is easier to stomach (e.g., X requests per hour where they bank up to one hour so you can burst up to 2X for especially crazy hours or something).
yeah that's interesting. $5 for 35/day could be better as well
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#35Kudos for adopting a user friendly billing policy. I would love to see the FTC mandate a policy that prohibits automatic renewal billing if the service hasn’t been used for some time.
how would that be enforced?
My prepaid mobile service is configured to auto-renew. The service provider messages me two times prior to renewal, something like three days before and the day before. The SMS contain details of how to change my payment settings, which is also the same place you remove your payment card / bank account details.
We also have legislation that provides warranty on electronic devices and household appliances, everything really, except things like cars and boats etc etc, for the reasonable lifetime of the product. So a cheap washing machine, three to five years would be reasonable, an expensive unit? I want that to last six to eight years. An expensive fridge, at least ten.
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#36That's great, but I can't even imagine "forgetting" to use Kagi. Completely indispensable.
Could you share what you find in kagi indispensable? Just subscribed, and looking around.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
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What a needlessly toxic take. > People who can't wake up without an alarm, should be late for things. > People who are busy, clearly need to be punished! > Punishment is the best way to change behavior, it's why I always hit my dog! > Humans are better at remembering and scheduling things than computers are, obviously we should require humans do these types of things even when it would be trivial to do so programmati…
> > Giving people a free pass for not paying attention to their own finances is exactly how you end up with people that are even worse at managing their finances than before.
[citation needed]... because I'm pretty sure you just made that up, and it's not true at all.
I am not sure what to think about this topic in a whole, but that argument isn’t much different than why we teach responsibility for kids. There might be some truth in it.
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#38Ok that’s it, I‘ll renew my account now. I‘ve been using it two years ago and was pretty happy, until a problem in my payment processor failed the payments to Kagi. I thought I wouldn’t miss it, but lately I haven’t been happy with DDG and been reaching more for Google, or should I say suffering Google?
I also thought for a while that things like ChatGPT internet search or perplexity would replace DDG and Kagi, but, so far, I just want slop free sources to back up the slop I generated purposely in R1.
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#39Kagi is awesome, but the thought of having a limit led me to use it less and less and I eventually unsubscribed.
I noticed if I need something hard to find I have to do a dozen+ different queries (and sometimes not find anything because it doesn't exist). Both with Kagi and Google the result is the same but with Kagi I also rack up a bunch per one attempt to find something. And if I need something easy to find but lazy both Google and Kagi reliably show the first correct result. So it's either unlimited or nothing. But since I…
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#40I'd pay more for more search results (as opposed to searches, which are already unlimited with Kagi subscriptions). I found google unbearable when it removed the '100 results' default setting (until I found a chrome extension). But I stopped using Kagi for the same reason. Sometimes seeing lots of search results has its advantages, for example when gauging how common/popular a term is, or just being able to quickly survey many sites, or seeing where one of your sites/article appears in the search rankings.
Kagi attempts to only provide results it thinks will be relevant. While I liked the accurate results, I was frustrated when none of the 5-10 results was what I was after; at that point the UX is to type a new search term rather than simply scrolling further (I prefer the latter).
One other small downside is I slightly missed google's 'WebAnswers' (certain google searches will display images and summary info for the search term, rather than strictly results). WebAnswers were handy on super quick searches for, say, a particular car or aircraft model). I didn't think I'd miss this, but I did, although it was very minor.