It's really cool to see how you guys are using the voice AI stack to overcome language barrier.
(btw I work at LiveKit, so let me know if we could make Agents easier to use for your use case.)
Launch HN: Pinch (YC W25) – Video conferencing with immersive translation
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#32Ofc i fully associate "video conferencing" with a "Pinch". Wake up you SV product manager dorks! Lazy effort in naming things!
Slack, zoom, Apple etc were really successful without that mattering at all
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#33Assuming the tech is solid, I think that if you had developed this as a browser extension to work on top of Meet/Teams/etc, not only would your dev time have been much shorter and adoption much faster, but Google/Microsoft/etc would have probably bought you out in a blink of an eye.
Getting bought out is not a bad option here.
Yup that’s what I’m saying
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#35What does real-time mean here? Would it work e.g. in a live stream?
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#36Kudos to the Pinch team for tackling such a challenging yet crucial problem. Excited to see where this goes!
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#37Ofc i fully associate "video conferencing" with a "Pinch". Wake up you SV product manager dorks! Lazy effort in naming things!
What would you name it? Something that explains exactly what it does in the name like Hulu, Apple, Snowflake, Oracle, Google, Ford, or Bungie?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks! We have a virtual camera on our roadmap as well, but by building the conferencing platform end to end we can optimize both latency and conversation UX to a much higher degree. We're also lucky to be building this now and not five years ago - there are some solid webrtc infra companies and open source projects to build on.
Would companies switch their video conferencing solution to yours, or do you envision them using both side by side?
We're hoping companies with international teams will switch over fully (we have internally), but our initial goal is to attract a subset of the market that has cross-lingual needs and unblock them as much as possible from using it more.
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#39Ofc i fully associate "video conferencing" with a "Pinch". Wake up you SV product manager dorks! Lazy effort in naming things!
What would you name it? Something that explains exactly what it does in the name like Hulu, Apple, Snowflake, Oracle, Google, Ford, or Bungie?
Pinch is the worst of both possibilities. It doesn’t describe what it does, but it’s also not a catchy memorable “brand-like” name like Google either.
Re: Launch HN: Pinch (YC W25) – Video conferencing with immersive translation
#40What does real-time mean here? Would it work e.g. in a live stream?
Yes, right now we're ranging from 0.75-3 seconds for the translation to start, and we're hoping to move the average time lower with our next updates. There will always be some limitation to how fast we can translate (different languages have different sentence structures and phrasing), but for livestreaming usually you'd have even a bit more wiggle room for the latency.
Also in case you're interested in the logistics of using us for livestreaming: If our current platform won't work for your use-case and you need to use OBS + a virtual camera, it's on our roadmap.