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Re: The Leaning Tower of New York

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Post by ecocentrik »

yellowbeard wrote: post #27
mschuster91 wrote: post #21

> The process promised to save the company six million dollars What an absurd case of penny pinching.

That was also my immediate thought. However, what was the chance that the method they did use would end up not working? If sufficiently low, from an EV perspective, perhaps they made the right choice? Also the article isn't clear to what extent the lean is responsible for the building not being finished.

You think they could sell a single unit in a tilted highrise? I don't see how risking your entire investment to save a few million with any significant chance of total failure could be +EV.

Re: The Leaning Tower of New York

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Post by rqtwteye »

bloomingeek wrote: post #22
MathiasPius wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is a reference to the Chernobyl mini-series, where the Dyatlov character responds to the news of the level of radioactive contamination as "Not great, not terrible", unaware that their measuring equipment is actually maxed out, hiding the true scale of the problem.

The Chernobyl mini-series is highly recommended. It is a classic example of how arrogance and stupidity are closely related. (Where stupidity is defines as knowing the correct thing to do, but ignoring the facts or available infomation.)

Just keep in mind that it portrays a lot of the characters in a cartoonish way.

Re: The Leaning Tower of New York

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Post by walrus01 »

crznp wrote: post #17
thisismytest wrote: post #4

Has any skyscraper actually just tipped over?

Are you not counting the Surfside (Miami) condo collapse? Also since it talked about the leaning tower of Pisa: the Civic tower in Pavia (1989) and original Campanile in Venice (1902), probably more examples like that.

Approximately the same size of residential structure, a condo tower in Islamabad Pakistan collapsed in an earthquake in 2005. The earthquake didn't collapse any other condos in the same city, it wasn't an extremely severe one, the fault was with deficiencies in the structural engineering and construction.

https://www.google.com/search?q=margalla+towers+islamabad+co...

Re: The Leaning Tower of New York

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Post by Neikius »

bloomingeek wrote: post #22
MathiasPius wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is a reference to the Chernobyl mini-series, where the Dyatlov character responds to the news of the level of radioactive contamination as "Not great, not terrible", unaware that their measuring equipment is actually maxed out, hiding the true scale of the problem.

The Chernobyl mini-series is highly recommended. It is a classic example of how arrogance and stupidity are closely related. (Where stupidity is defines as knowing the correct thing to do, but ignoring the facts or available infomation.)

Isn't the series very dramatized and quite inaccurate compared to the actual history?

Re: The Leaning Tower of New York

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Post by arcanemachiner »

Neikius wrote: post #37
bloomingeek wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chernobyl mini-series is highly recommended. It is a classic example of how arrogance and stupidity are closely related. (Where stupidity is defines as knowing the correct thing to do, but ignoring the facts or available infomation.)

Isn't the series very dramatized and quite inaccurate compared to the actual history?

If anyone watches a TV show with the assumption that they are getting an accurate view of history, then I wish them luck in life, since they will probably need it.

Re: The Leaning Tower of New York

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Post by wodenokoto »

dayofthedaleks wrote: post #29

Assuming the neighbor to the north gave up air rights, could this be corrected with guy wires planted in the park one block away? Makes me think a kerbal citybuilder game would be fun.

The article makes it sound like there is nothing to correct. The structure is crooked, but sound.

You can build a house around it.

Re: The Leaning Tower of New York

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Post by lores »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #38
Neikius wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the series very dramatized and quite inaccurate compared to the actual history?

If anyone watches a TV show with the assumption that they are getting an accurate view of history, then I wish them luck in life, since they will probably need it.

That particular series was presented with very heavy emphasis on how "accurate" it was to real events, though, and many, many people thought it a documentary.
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