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The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by TrackerFF »

breadwinner wrote: post #25

> So this feels like a hostile takeover of the machinery of governments by the richest man in the world. ... and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Checks and balances have been neutralized.

Checks and balances were never tried in the first place. There must have been some assumption of decorum and decency, so strong that whatever loopholes are, have been left wide open.

Without a competent or impartial FBI and AG, there's literally zero chance these people will be investigated.

With a house and senate that fears the president, there will be no impeachment.

And even if they successfully manage to impeach the president, I'm 100% sure Trump will challenge it.

Yeah, buckle up and enjoy the ride. Gonna be 4 very, very long years.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by breadwinner »

TrackerFF wrote: post #31
breadwinner wrote: post #25

> So this feels like a hostile takeover of the machinery of governments by the richest man in the world. ... and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Checks and balances have been neutralized.

Checks and balances were never tried in the first place. There must have been some assumption of decorum and decency, so strong that whatever loopholes are, have been left wide open. Without a competent or impartial FBI and AG, there's literally zero chance these people will be investigated. With a house and senate that fears the president, there will be no impeachment. And even if they successfully manage to impeach…

4 years? Trump has been talking about a third term.

“It would be my greatest honor to serve not once but twice,” Mr. Trump told an audience on Saturday. “Maybe three times.” https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/26/us/politics/trump-boundar...

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by LastTrain »

ahazred8ta wrote: post #19
troelsSteegin wrote: post #16

https://doge.gov does not say anything about what the DOGE plan is, and https://www.usds.gov/ is not apparently up to date wrt DOGE. Is there something other than the Executive Order [0] that lays out concretely what DOGE intends to do? This group of engineers is doubtless skilled, but I don't seem them as the decision makers and planners here. [0] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/esta...

We went through something similar in the 1960s with the Whiz Kids, young college graduates from the RAND corporation with no experience in government or the military. 'But you have to obey us because we're so much smarter than you.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiz_Kids_(Department_of_Defen...

That wasn't even remotely similar to what is happening now.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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ahazred8ta wrote: post #19
troelsSteegin wrote: post #16

https://doge.gov does not say anything about what the DOGE plan is, and https://www.usds.gov/ is not apparently up to date wrt DOGE. Is there something other than the Executive Order [0] that lays out concretely what DOGE intends to do? This group of engineers is doubtless skilled, but I don't seem them as the decision makers and planners here. [0] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/esta...

We went through something similar in the 1960s with the Whiz Kids, young college graduates from the RAND corporation with no experience in government or the military. 'But you have to obey us because we're so much smarter than you.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiz_Kids_(Department_of_Defen...

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Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

medler wrote: post #3

I don’t know how this will shake out, but I do worry that these 19-24 year olds, some of whom are known to HN for other achievements, are putting themselves in real legal jeopardy. Edit: by the way, this post isn’t off-topic. It is about the activities of the US Digital Service (now known as Doge), and the exploits of young hackers who came up through top tech companies. It has implications for information systems se…

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Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by maxerickson »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #37
medler wrote: post #3

I don’t know how this will shake out, but I do worry that these 19-24 year olds, some of whom are known to HN for other achievements, are putting themselves in real legal jeopardy. Edit: by the way, this post isn’t off-topic. It is about the activities of the US Digital Service (now known as Doge), and the exploits of young hackers who came up through top tech companies. It has implications for information systems se…

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They are identified in the linked Wired article...Good job though, you are keeping on top of things.

Re: The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE

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Post by johnnyanmac »

relaxing wrote: post #35
jonnycomputer wrote: post #32

Can't believe this is flagged.

Honest question: how do things get unflagged? Do users at some level gain vouch privileges?

They 99.99999% of the time don't. I think only dang has that ability and he won't really step in unless there are some truly rouge actors.
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