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Introducing ChatGPT Gov

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Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

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post #23

Why would gov agencies rely on 3rd party services while they could deploy opensource LLMs locally and privately?

For the same reason that businesses offload it to OpenAI and the rest: it's not a "core competency".

That, and imagine trying to explain the funding request for that to the residents of the crypt... I mean, the current US Congress.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

#32
post #19

Stuff like this troubles me. I am in defense tech working with LLMs and I am here to tell you the guards and fences are down at the chow truck while commoners are using LLMs.

I don't really understand why people bash so hard on LLMs. In some cases it is a spectacularly bad tool, I get that. But it is only a tool. Imagine if you have a judge giving out sentences based on astrology books. I don't think anyone would argue the problem would be resolved by banning astrology books from our libraries.

First graph, okay. Second graph, the wheels come off in spectacular fashion (unless you're from Florida).

Banning books does not ban knowledge. It just makes it a bit more inconvenient. Banning drugs has not stopped people from getting access.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

#33
post #11

Sounds like a desperate move, now that the insane valuations, GPU capacity projections, and subscription revenue are at risk.

This is also why Altman was lobbying for AI regulation: to have moat with barriers of entry

Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

#34

Stuff like this troubles me. I am in defense tech working with LLMs and I am here to tell you the guards and fences are down at the chow truck while commoners are using LLMs.

The real revolution will come (hopefully) when voters start using LLMs to figure out which of their representatives actually vote for policies that improve their life.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am here to tell you the guards and fences are down at the chow truck while commoners are using LLMs. I've read this over and over and have no idea what this means.

I hate to be that guy, but here's what ChatGPT says: This expression uses metaphorical language to describe a situation where traditional barriers, hierarchies, or protections have been removed, allowing broader access or disrupting the status quo. Here's a breakdown: 1. "Guards and fences are down" - This implies that the usual controls, restrictions, or gatekeepers are no longer in place. 2. "At the chow truck" - T…

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Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

#36
post #26

This should be unsurprising- see also govcloud: https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us The US government likes its employees and contractors to have their own separate version of cloud products. For instance you would not want OpenAI using prompts about controlled unclassified information as training data. Most of the things government contractors do is CUI- you don't want it spread around, but it's not actually a secret…

Secure AWS instances are one thing, having the government use unreliable LLMs for their work is another. I do not want the government using LLMs to make decisions.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

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post #3
post #2

Would they have shielded instances from rest of instances processing data for plus/pro/enterprise customers?

I expect as much. Having going through FedRAMP before, the alternative would be to make their regular commercial infrastructure be up to FedRAMP standards, which is incredibly onerous (things like change tracking, DR, US Citizen access only to production systems, etc.)

> US Citizen access only to production systems,

What if the employees building the thing are not US citizens?

Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am here to tell you the guards and fences are down at the chow truck while commoners are using LLMs. I've read this over and over and have no idea what this means.

I hate to be that guy, but here's what ChatGPT says: This expression uses metaphorical language to describe a situation where traditional barriers, hierarchies, or protections have been removed, allowing broader access or disrupting the status quo. Here's a breakdown: 1. "Guards and fences are down" - This implies that the usual controls, restrictions, or gatekeepers are no longer in place. 2. "At the chow truck" - T…

You can choose to not be that guy.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT Gov

#40
post #23

Why would gov agencies rely on 3rd party services while they could deploy opensource LLMs locally and privately?

because that requires a capital cost, which tends to require special approval, and different types of accounting that are more difficult to get past.
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