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Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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Re: Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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never heard of it, but interesting setup. FreeBSD user land with Linux and Gnome/Wayland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_Linux

One of the side benefits of using the FreeBSD userland is all the flags will be consistent regardless of the of program. ‘-l’ or ‘-a’ are going to do what you expect irrespective of the command. It’s nice, and I used free for along while. I still know BSD syntax better than the SystemV equivalent.

I have also used the GNU tools but the BSD ones are winning me over. Another benefit is consistency with macOS I suppose. It also uses the BSD userland.

Re: Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Niri would be a simplified desktop to me https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri

I really wanted to switch to this but unfortunately it doesn't have support for Xwayland scaling :( in case youre using 4k, On Wayland only KDE and Gnome seem to have gotten this working.

If you're on KDE check out Karousel. It's a KDE Kwin script that does this type of scrollable tiling right inside KDE. Works great on my ultrawide monitor.

https://store.kde.org/p/2045724

Re: Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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Simplified desktop doesn’t very clearly map to “very text oriented, barebones Linux UI“. I was expecting something more like the ststem76 Pop OS kinda thing when I read this.

Niri would be a simplified desktop to me https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri

Cheers, that looks nice.

Re: Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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Desktops shouldn't be simple. They should work reliably and predictably like every good procduct. Everyone wants something simple until they want to do something that's not supported because it's not a simple use case. So unless you are a very simple person who always only does very simple things and lead a uniquely simple life (i envy you), a simple desktop is not for you.

Re: Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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Desktops shouldn't be simple. They should work reliably and predictably like every good procduct. Everyone wants something simple until they want to do something that's not supported because it's not a simple use case. So unless you are a very simple person who always only does very simple things and lead a uniquely simple life (i envy you), a simple desktop is not for you.

>They should work reliably and predictably like every good procduct.

So you're saying they should be simple?

>unless you are a very simple person who always only does very simple things and lead a uniquely simple life

Considering the massive popularity of MacOS and iOS which all mandate the same reliable and predictable user experience on every Apple device, most people are "very simple" persons who "do very simple things and lead a uniquely simple life".

The power user paradigm of old that expose all the knobs and dials and levers there are to pleasure us simply does not appeal to the commons.

Re: Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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Desktops shouldn't be simple. They should work reliably and predictably like every good procduct. Everyone wants something simple until they want to do something that's not supported because it's not a simple use case. So unless you are a very simple person who always only does very simple things and lead a uniquely simple life (i envy you), a simple desktop is not for you.

There are two categories of things that should be simple in a desktop:

1. Common tasks. These should be simple because you do them a lot. Browsing the file system, launching applications, using a password manager, sharing data over networks, and making backups - these are all tasks that should be common and should be simple for anyone to do.

2. Important tasks. These should be simple because they are necessary, even if they're not common. Installing software, connecting to new networks, adjusting displays, enabling full-disk encryption, running system updates - these should be simple so that anyone can do them when needed, with as little difficulty or friction as possible. (Admin privileges may come in to play for some of these, of course.)

If any of these tasks are not simple, there are a lot of users who simply won't do them. And that's bad for all of us.

Re: Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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post #36

Desktops shouldn't be simple. They should work reliably and predictably like every good procduct. Everyone wants something simple until they want to do something that's not supported because it's not a simple use case. So unless you are a very simple person who always only does very simple things and lead a uniquely simple life (i envy you), a simple desktop is not for you.

I think they mean simple in the sense of minimized complexity, rather than dumbed down.

Re: Chimera Linux works toward a simplified desktop

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Desktops shouldn't be simple. They should work reliably and predictably like every good procduct. Everyone wants something simple until they want to do something that's not supported because it's not a simple use case. So unless you are a very simple person who always only does very simple things and lead a uniquely simple life (i envy you), a simple desktop is not for you.

>They should work reliably and predictably like every good procduct. So you're saying they should be simple? >unless you are a very simple person who always only does very simple things and lead a uniquely simple life Considering the massive popularity of MacOS and iOS which all mandate the same reliable and predictable user experience on every Apple device, most people are "very simple" persons who "do very simple t…

Haven't you heard that the terminal is the most simple and efficient interface? Obviously everyone should just use terminals for their tasks /s
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