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Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by timeon »

ta8645 wrote: post #21
argsnd wrote: post #5

#fuckbiden works, #fucktrump gets censored. They better have a good explanation for why this is a bug.

The question for the people who find this outrageous, why didn't you find the opposite situation just as outrageous? For years, liberals have been tacitly and often explicitly endorsing censorious behavior of Twitter, Meta and others as not only legitimate, but desirable. And this outcome is exactly why that was a dangerous position to embrace. Because, soon enough, someone you don't agree with will come into power.…

You are painting it with really broad brush. Was Meta censoring #Republican before?

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by baq »

osmsucks wrote: post #16
tmountain wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't need explanations. America signed up for this. Now, everyone is just along for the ride.

"Everyone" worldwide? The rest of the world didn't sign up for this.

In a way they did. Europe outsourced their defense to the US, energy to Russia and manufacturing to China, now getting by all three, rather predictably.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by NeutralForest »

ta8645 wrote: post #21
argsnd wrote: post #5

#fuckbiden works, #fucktrump gets censored. They better have a good explanation for why this is a bug.

The question for the people who find this outrageous, why didn't you find the opposite situation just as outrageous? For years, liberals have been tacitly and often explicitly endorsing censorious behavior of Twitter, Meta and others as not only legitimate, but desirable. And this outcome is exactly why that was a dangerous position to embrace. Because, soon enough, someone you don't agree with will come into power.…

Let's not "both sides" this issue.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by pjc50 »

ta8645 wrote: post #21
argsnd wrote: post #5

#fuckbiden works, #fucktrump gets censored. They better have a good explanation for why this is a bug.

The question for the people who find this outrageous, why didn't you find the opposite situation just as outrageous? For years, liberals have been tacitly and often explicitly endorsing censorious behavior of Twitter, Meta and others as not only legitimate, but desirable. And this outcome is exactly why that was a dangerous position to embrace. Because, soon enough, someone you don't agree with will come into power.…

There's something to this argument, but a truly uncensored site 4chan style would never have been bigger than that site. The platforms have to censor CSAM; commercially, they end up having to censor slurs and abuse down to a level which the users and advertisers find acceptable.

(also there's a lot of false equivalence going on here - 'democrat' isn't a slur!)

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by nejsjsjsbsb »

osmsucks wrote: post #16
tmountain wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't need explanations. America signed up for this. Now, everyone is just along for the ride.

"Everyone" worldwide? The rest of the world didn't sign up for this.

Hoping ROTW can make US a little bit less relevant. More non-US startup unicorns. Fund the WHO, UN etc. Surely 8 within billion people we can so it?

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by pjc50 »

osmsucks wrote: post #16
tmountain wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't need explanations. America signed up for this. Now, everyone is just along for the ride.

"Everyone" worldwide? The rest of the world didn't sign up for this.

I suppose we did when signing up to accounts on a US-based site. It's long been a problem that the US has de facto global jurisdiction of the internet.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by piva00 »

inglor_cz wrote: post #20
piva00 wrote: post #9

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"What about?"

The thing is, "deplatforming" is always popular with people as long as the thoughts unpopular among those people are being deplatformed. But once the mechanism for systemic deplatforming has been built, it can be captured by other groups. I suspect that after 15-20 years of the pendulum swinging to a fro, the "freeze peach" crowd may reconsider the value of, again, systemic tolerance.

The whole "deplatforming" has always been a stupid whack-a-mole. The core issue is the media itself, social media as it is will always tend to make bullshit spread fast and wild because that's the entire nature of bullshit.

It's broken in its core, I don't see any way to patch what social media has developed into. Reactionary ideas are more viral, hatred is more viral, the metric is always "engagement" and there's no primal drive in humans to be more engaged with boring stuff like truthful, nuanced, and commeasured discussion rather than ragebait (on both sides).

It feels to me we actually devolved to a world where norms, morals, etc. are defined by amoral virtual entities feeding people with content to make them engage more with the virtual entities... It's fucking dark and absurd the deeper I think about it, we're already being controlled by the machines we created.

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