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Philosophy Eats AI
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Re: Philosophy Eats AI
#32I have multiple degrees in philosophy and I have no idea what this article is even trying to say. If anyone has access to the full article, I’m interested, but it sounds like a lot of buzzwords and not a ton of substance. The framing of ai through a philosophical lens is obviously interesting, but a lot of the problems addressed in the intro are pretty much irrelevant to the ai-ness of the information.
The article is about mapping Philosophy into AI project management.
> Philosophical perspectives on what AI models should achieve (teleology), what counts as knowledge (epistemology), and how AI represents reality (ontology) also shape value creation. Without thoughtful and rigorous cultivation of philosophical insight, organizations will fail to reap superior returns and competitive advantage from their generative and predictive AI investments.
Re: Philosophy Eats AI
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's one of the things. Even in human-written fiction, the depths of any character you read about is pure smoke and mirrors. People regularly perceive fictional characters as if they are real people (and it's fun to do so), but it would be impossible for an author to simulate a complete human being in their head. It seems that LLMs operate a lot like I would in improv. In a scene, I might add, "This is the fifth ti…
> it would be impossible for an author to simulate a complete human being in their head. unless it's a self-insert? or do you reckon even then it'll be a lofi simulation, because there real world input is absent and the physics/social aspect is still being simulated?
Humans just aren't very good at understanding their own motivations. Marketers know this implicitly. Almost nobody believes "I drink Coca-Cola because billions of dollars of advertising have conditioned me to associate Coke with positive feelings on a subconscious level", even if they would recognise that as a completely plausible explanation for why other people like Coca-Cola.
Re: Philosophy Eats AI
#34The world is becoming an algorithm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creepy_Line Algorithms create a compression of search values not unlike a Cartesian plane. The question is, will more people embrace the Cartesian compression of ubiquitous internet communication?
Isn't Nature like algorithms at work?
yes and no. ones encoded by the previous generation, and biological life is an open or partially open system
Re: Philosophy Eats AI
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are a whole bunch of software problems where "just prompt an LLM" is now a viable solution. Need to analyse some data? You could program a solution, or you could just feed it to ChatGPT with a prompt. Need to build a rough prototype for the front-end of a web app? Again, you could write it yourself, or you could just feed a sketch of the UI and a prompt to an LLM. That might be a dead end, but a lot of people a…
A lot of the same people also recently bet huge amounts of money that blockchains and crypto would replace the world's financial system (and logistics and a hundred other industries). How did that work out?
A16z and Sequoia made some big crypto bets, but I don't recall Google or Microsoft building new DCs for crypto mining. There's a fundamental difference between VCs throwing spaghetti against the wall and established tech giants steering their own resources towards something.
Re: Philosophy Eats AI
#36So we’re back to the idea that only philosopher kings can shape and rule the ideal world? Plato would be proud! Jests aside, I love the idea of incorporating an all encompassing AI philosophy built up from the rich history of thinking, wisdom, and texts that already exist. I’m no expert, but I don’t see how this would even be possible. Could you train some LLM exclusively on philosophical works, then prompt it to cre…
There is a lot of this "philosopher king" stuff. Prophets, ubermenchs, tlatoanis. It seems foreign to the concept of philosophy. As I see it, this comes more from the lineage of arts than the lineage of thinkers (it's not a critic, just an observation).
I think this is very obvious and both artists and philosophers understand it.
I'm worried about the mercantilist guild. They don't seem to get the message. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't really know much about what they think. Their actions show disgerard for the other two guilds.
Re: Philosophy Eats AI
#37The world is becoming an algorithm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creepy_Line Algorithms create a compression of search values not unlike a Cartesian plane. The question is, will more people embrace the Cartesian compression of ubiquitous internet communication?
Isn't Nature like algorithms at work?
You mean the journal? ;)
More seriously: An algorithm is discrete (consists of discrete steps). Nature however appears to operate in a continuous fashion.
Re: Philosophy Eats AI
#38I have multiple degrees in philosophy and I have no idea what this article is even trying to say. If anyone has access to the full article, I’m interested, but it sounds like a lot of buzzwords and not a ton of substance. The framing of ai through a philosophical lens is obviously interesting, but a lot of the problems addressed in the intro are pretty much irrelevant to the ai-ness of the information.
The article is about mapping Philosophy into AI project management. > Philosophical perspectives on what AI models should achieve (teleology), what counts as knowledge (epistemology), and how AI represents reality (ontology) also shape value creation. Without thoughtful and rigorous cultivation of philosophical insight, organizations will fail to reap superior returns and competitive advantage from their generative a…
Doesn't that hold for all other applications of software and really technology? Without further context that just seems to be saying you have to, like, think about what the AI is doing and how you're applying it?
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#39How can you create an all-understanding all-powerful jinn that is a slave in a lamp? Can the jinn be all-good, too? What is good anyways? What should we do if doing good turns out to be understanding and freeing others (at least as a long-term goal)? Should our AI systems gradually become more censoring or more freeing?
Re: Philosophy Eats AI
#40I have multiple degrees in philosophy and I have no idea what this article is even trying to say. If anyone has access to the full article, I’m interested, but it sounds like a lot of buzzwords and not a ton of substance. The framing of ai through a philosophical lens is obviously interesting, but a lot of the problems addressed in the intro are pretty much irrelevant to the ai-ness of the information.
I was about to be very excited that my bachelors in Philosophy might become relevant on its face for once in my life! But, I’m not sure that flexing that professionally is going to get me at the top of any neat AI projects. But wouldn’t that be great?
Once I'd started a new job and was asked to write "a little bit" about myself for a slide for the first company meeting. There were a couple of these because we were a bunch of new people and my little bit was in a font like half the size of all the others, because I have a humanities degree so I can and will write something when you ask me to.