Honestly I wouldn't be surprised that if Google requires some Proof-of-work done on browser's host's CPU/GPU to validate search results and make it infeasible for bots therefore.
Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
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Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's absolutely no need for JavaScript on a page that has a text input and two buttons and that has worked without JS for three decades. Given Google's reputation for privacy and the constant attempts at selling their users out, it's fair to assume that the reason they're requiring JavaScript is not noble.
> There's absolutely no need for JavaScript on a page that has a text input and two buttons The whole web is evil then. Hacker news has JavaScript for simple upvote buttons, is it also evil?
HN is usable w/o JavaScript. It doesn't block my access because I choose not to allow it to execute arbitrary code on my computer.
Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's absolutely no need for JavaScript on a page that has a text input and two buttons and that has worked without JS for three decades. Given Google's reputation for privacy and the constant attempts at selling their users out, it's fair to assume that the reason they're requiring JavaScript is not noble.
Okay. But is it evil?
Whether it's evil or not is a difficult question. I'd say it's at least as bad as satan, considering we can actually confirm its existence. But that it arose naturally from this grotesque universe means it is a valid part of things. Maybe it is we who are evil and it that punishes us.
Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#34I recently discovered how great the ChatGPT web search feature is. Returns live (!) results from the web and usually finds things that Google doesn't - mostly niche searches in natural language that G simply doesn't get.
Of course, it uses JavaScript, which doesn't help with the problem discussed here.
But I do think that Google is internally seeing a huge drop in usage which is why they're currently running for the money. We're going to see this all across their products soon enough (I'm thinking Gmail).
Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#35How else are you going to load a hideously incorrect AI summary block without your initial page latency being through the roof?
Iframes lazy Object content as lazy Embed lazy Image lazy Link rel=import (not support that widely though) Heck if you wanted to get REALLY cute you go use multipart-mixed-replace headers. Or SSE
now that i think about it you could do it quite nicely with svg's and foreignObject
Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#36Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's absolutely no need for JavaScript on a page that has a text input and two buttons and that has worked without JS for three decades. Given Google's reputation for privacy and the constant attempts at selling their users out, it's fair to assume that the reason they're requiring JavaScript is not noble.
> There's absolutely no need for JavaScript on a page that has a text input and two buttons The whole web is evil then. Hacker news has JavaScript for simple upvote buttons, is it also evil?
Voting works for HN without js. Just forces a page refresh.
Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#38Kagi it is, then
Is kagi that good?
Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#39Re: Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search
#40Kagi it is, then
Is kagi that good?
You can find the endless reviews:
https://hn.algolia.com/?query=kagi&sort=byPopularity
Possibly one of the most reviewed SaaS companies here.
And yes, it's pretty great. But it's just Search (with some AI tossed in).
Incidentally, Kagi works with JavaScript disabled.