Probably a huge chunk of crimes of this nature don't even get reported because of that.
89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve
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Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve
#32As information continues to come to light is it actually concievable that the government is actively avoiding investigations that might put the government's immigration policies into question? That seems to be the unstated in the article. Has the case load dramatically increased, as in were there many more offenses? Were resources cut or reallocated? Did the definition of what counts as a sexual offense or reporting…
The same government which has declared "Asian grooming gangs" to be a 'racist' term for gangs of Pakistani immigrants who committed hundreds of sex crimes against young girls? It's certainly a possibility. [1] https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/islamophobia-racis...
Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve
#33As information continues to come to light is it actually concievable that the government is actively avoiding investigations that might put the government's immigration policies into question? That seems to be the unstated in the article. Has the case load dramatically increased, as in were there many more offenses? Were resources cut or reallocated? Did the definition of what counts as a sexual offense or reporting…
Police funding was cut significantly after the financial crisis and is only just being restored to pre-GFC levels: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publication/perfor... The number of reported sexual offences has increased by double digits over the last reporting period, and did the same in the last one: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeand... There are a variety of factors at play be…
Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve
#34As information continues to come to light is it actually concievable that the government is actively avoiding investigations that might put the government's immigration policies into question? That seems to be the unstated in the article. Has the case load dramatically increased, as in were there many more offenses? Were resources cut or reallocated? Did the definition of what counts as a sexual offense or reporting…
Police funding was cut significantly after the financial crisis and is only just being restored to pre-GFC levels: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publication/perfor... The number of reported sexual offences has increased by double digits over the last reporting period, and did the same in the last one: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeand... There are a variety of factors at play be…
Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve
#35Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve
#36The alternative is to spend even more money on police funding, who aren't really that effective at stopping crime and who directly cause their own negative social issues. Prisons are extremely expensive to run per inmate.
The crime problem is much easier to deal with if the crimes do not happen in the first place.
Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve
#37The reason I think its insights are relevant despite some major differences of context compared to this article is that the general barriers she faced at every step of the way trying to get some justice (despite being a Judge's Associate and the daughter of a well known and respected police officer) speak to the broad realities of navigating justice systems when you've been assaulted.
A total lack of understanding of these processes leads to people saying things like 'well there probably wasn't enough evidence' or 'the cops probably needed their finite resources for something bigger/worse' like they're unimpeachable axioms that exist in a vacuum.
The lack of critical thinking (or curiosity, or empathy?) about the (many, broad) realities of reporting crimes, or dealing with cops and the justice system if you're one of the few that make it far enough in the systems is just so frustrating to me. The thought terminating cliches that rely on the assumption that there's a just and relatively simple explanation for these stats get my goat.
In Eggshell Skull, Lee describes how many times she had to actually contact police in order to get them to even start a file, let alone getting them to actually take a report.
From first (and second) hand experience, the cops just turning people away (and lying about 'someone will be in touch') also applies to victims showing up at a police station immediately after an assault, clothes torn, not yet covered in the soon to bloom bruises. They don't even direct people to attend crisis centres or the hospital who will actually collect evidence following an assault. A friend of mine has described how the police (in a major metropolitan city) literally laughed and said 'men can't be sexually assaulted' when he brought in a male friend immediately after it had happened. They were then threatened with arrest by the cop when they asked to see someone at the station other than this front desk cop because they wanted to make a report. Arresting them would not be justifiable, but the intent of the threat, however empty, is pretty clear. Also good effing luck getting justice if the arrest threat was actually followed through. The cops are an active barrier to timely collection of evidence and a report. What is someone who keeps pushing for opening a case then left with? Little or no physical evidence and a report made maybe weeks after the event. It doesn't exactly set up a case all that well. Oh, I guess the cops aren't going to resource this case when that's all they've got to go on. The amount and quality of evidence and witnesses and whatnot doesn't seem to make a difference for these things but I've got no experience with that.
I guess I just wish people understood a little bit more about how things can work IRL and that it's not clear and simple. I know random internet anecdotes are worthless (especially the second hand ones) but maybe consider that things don't necessarily work the ways you think they do.
I'm also skirting around one of the more pertinent questions when crime stats like this pop up. What is the actual function of police? It's evident that it's not to solve crimes. That's maybe a discussion for another time.
Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve
#38Why would anyone bother to report a crime that has just 10% of being solved? Probably a huge chunk of crimes of this nature don't even get reported because of that.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
The same government which has declared "Asian grooming gangs" to be a 'racist' term for gangs of Pakistani immigrants who committed hundreds of sex crimes against young girls? It's certainly a possibility. [1] https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/islamophobia-racis...
Please would you take a moment to consider why people might be so quick to blame this on immigrants and why it might be unhelpful to repeat that claim? Noting the facts given in that Times piece don't support it.
And lets not open whole muslim can of worms where crime vs infidels are not seen as crimes and even if seen as crime its illegal for muslim to side with infidel side.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I strongly suspect that it's harder to find suspects to charge who have fewer local links and less documentation. I also suspect the CPS is probably failing to bring cases in a level and fair way, why bother when the judge will let them off without jail time because of 'cultural differences'? [0][1]. We know that migrants are 350% more likely to be arrested for sexual crimes than British citizens [2], but that's only…
Do you have a source more credible than right wing tabloids for this?