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Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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Post by mantas » Wed, Jan 08, 2025, 4:16 PM UTC

raxxor wrote: post #25

anonzzzies wrote: post #10

I am all for real free speech about anything. It's just never real free speech; it's always censored and influenced (drowned out or amplified which is basically the same thing) in some direction. X is not free speech and this won't be either. What I do hope is that this will drive the banning of Meta, X and others from the EU. I know this will hurt a lot of people short term, but long term, we might be the only part…

I think the people most influenced be terrible influences by people like Musk are those that mirror this opinion. Banning social media sites is a pretty draconian approach that probably will not work anyway and I believe it to be completely reactionary. The EU formerly did have influence on Twitter content. They lost that and aren't too happy about that. I think it was a necessary correction and I don't want to live…

EU as in some bureaucrats in Brussels ain't too happy. As a citizen of EU member, I'm pretty happy some little known societal control by non-elected bureaucrats is gone.

Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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Post by mantas » Wed, Jan 08, 2025, 4:17 PM UTC

tappaseater wrote: post #23

anonzzzies wrote: post #10

I am all for real free speech about anything. It's just never real free speech; it's always censored and influenced (drowned out or amplified which is basically the same thing) in some direction. X is not free speech and this won't be either. What I do hope is that this will drive the banning of Meta, X and others from the EU. I know this will hurt a lot of people short term, but long term, we might be the only part…

When Zuck said on Jan 7th, 2025, that he wants to work with President Trump to oppose states threatening free speech, he wasn't talking about China. It was 100% the EU and its regulations. The quid pro quo starts to emerge.

If he wants to fight ever-coming-back EU chat supervising bill, more power to him. But I guess that's not about it :(

Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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Post by mantas » Wed, Jan 08, 2025, 4:18 PM UTC

BitterCritter wrote: post #7

I wonder what strange little people this rule was removed for. Sexism just stupefies me and I wonder how someone with the intelligence to breath could render such words.

Looks like there was no specific rule. But some so-called journalists tried to think of what some people they dislike might say now that a rule they like is gone.

Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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Post by mantas » Wed, Jan 08, 2025, 4:22 PM UTC

tledakis wrote: post #13

raxxor wrote: post #2

This is outrage bait and pretty low even for CNN.

Why do you say that? I checked the policy change and they have removed the literal "don't do this" example and the whole category above it. Seeing as FB moderation was already lax on hate speech, do you think calling women 'household objects' will not be permitted in the future FB?

It was not lax, but bent in strange ways.

E.g. FB was banning people for using a historical term when discussing Russian-Ukraine war - „Muscovite“. Which has no derogatory connotations mind you. Besides reminding that modern Russia started as Duchy of Moscow. And to make distinction between Rus/Ruthenian people (e.g. Kievan Rus) and modern Russia. Yet FB considered it hate speech for some god forsaken reason.

Re: Calling women 'household objects' now permitted on Facebook

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Post by BitterCritter » Tue, Jan 14, 2025, 9:22 PM UTC

mantas wrote: post #33

BitterCritter wrote: post #7

I wonder what strange little people this rule was removed for. Sexism just stupefies me and I wonder how someone with the intelligence to breath could render such words.

Looks like there was no specific rule. But some so-called journalists tried to think of what some people they dislike might say now that a rule they like is gone.

If a rule blocks someone from saying something then that rule is for that. There is a specific rule if they couldn’t say it before. What are you saying what does that mean?