Full paper: https://ojs.aaai.org/index.php/ICWSM/article/view/7275/7129
The Evaporative Cooling Effect in Social Networks (2010)
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe you are confusing "effective" with "ugly" There is only one thing that could improve HN interface, and that is an NNTP mirror feed, so you could use any NNTP client you like.
I mean, the upvote buttons could be bigger on mobile.
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#33This pretty much describes a lot of what I’ve experienced in online language learning communities. A large majority of my friends who eventually reached fluency in their target language ended up leaving or becoming significantly less active over time despite their success. Over time, the quantity of ‘wannabe’ language learners has generally increased and reduced the overall quality of the communities. I used to be co…
I believe you are confusing "effective" with "ugly" There is only one thing that could improve HN interface, and that is an NNTP mirror feed, so you could use any NNTP client you like.
Oh no, I truly believe it’s ugly.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There are not really ceilings, barrier to entry, or way around the system, so it's resistant to spams and manipulations. I feel like we must be using different internets. Spam and manipulation are rampant on social networks lately, far beyond what they used to be, and while there aren't really barriers to entry there absolutely are barriers to reach : you're not as widely followed as the spammers, your stuff will b…
> I feel like we must be using different internets. I can't shake off the thought that this statement might be more truthful than it deserves to be. Some of social media accounts are closer to what you have described, some are more like what I have. The Dead Internet Syndrome must be not spreading uniformly, but there must be significant disparity across fields and bubbles, deepening divides between common folks with…
Twitter turned into garbage when Elon decided to make it pay-to-play. Giving Blue Checks ranking boosts and extra power when they block others ruined every reply section. On any even vaguely political tweet you now have to scroll forever through a bunch of illustrated profile pics hurling insults before you can get to a real discussion.
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#35Why don't social networks provide recommendation profile transfer. Sort of like stepping into someone else's shoes. E.g. I would like to view how twitter looks like to Simon Willison. This would also make it easier for people to break through filter bubbles.
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#36Isn't this model a bit outdated with prevalence of likes and retweets? Users on modern social platforms optimize output to maximize favorable responses, thereby gratification. There are not really ceilings, barrier to entry, or way around the system, so it's resistant to spams and manipulations. Classical BBS systems did have this problem. It was said that a community beegins with interesting people posting interesti…
For advertisement purposes, total engagement triumphs, so this is perfectly fine and lucrative for the platform itself, but the quality is not necessarily maintained.
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#37Isn't this model a bit outdated with prevalence of likes and retweets? Users on modern social platforms optimize output to maximize favorable responses, thereby gratification. There are not really ceilings, barrier to entry, or way around the system, so it's resistant to spams and manipulations. Classical BBS systems did have this problem. It was said that a community beegins with interesting people posting interesti…
You are assuming that what was interesting for the initial users is exactly the same that is interesting for the increasing mass of joining users, but as you increase the number of users, things that have mass appeal have more likes, retweets, etc. So an interesting but more niche post will potentially receive less average attention than before. Therefore, a niche community loses its defining qualities as the number…
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#38This pretty much describes a lot of what I’ve experienced in online language learning communities. A large majority of my friends who eventually reached fluency in their target language ended up leaving or becoming significantly less active over time despite their success. Over time, the quantity of ‘wannabe’ language learners has generally increased and reduced the overall quality of the communities. I used to be co…
Aside from the users being elitist egocentric pricks and the frontpage being indecipherable to anyone without a CS formation?
I don't think so. But yeah the layout is mostly what does it. Before reddit redesigned itself, it wasn't so bad. Normies want Instagram-like feeds to endlessly scroll through, and they don't like reading because it hurts their brains. So they gatekeep themselves.
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#39I have voiced this feature request many times. Why don't social networks provide recommendation profile transfer. Sort of like stepping into someone else's shoes. E.g. I would like to view how twitter looks like to Simon Willison. This would also make it easier for people to break through filter bubbles.
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#40I'm the author of the original piece which was originally penned to warn Quora that their social software design seemed purposely designed to drive evaporative cooling. With the benefit of 15 years of hindsight, Quora has thoroughly evaporatively cooled to an extent beyond even my imagining.