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Re: A path to O1 open source

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Excessive profanity could be a fun way to prove human authors!

CUSSTCHA Curse-Using Social Scoring Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart

That's hilarious, and sorry, I can't help myself.

Curse-Using Social Scoring Turing Assessment to Tell Computers and Humans Apart

CUSSATCHA

Re: A path to O1 open source

#32
post #9

Is it me or the first link on the site http://ability.openai is broken? Is openai a tld now?

That seems, ironically, to be an AI proofreader mistake.

The correct URL is https://cdn.openai.com/o1-system-card-20241205.pdf , at least according to https://arxiv.org/html/2412.14135v1 (which contains typos that OP's submissions doesn’t).

Re: A path to O1 open source

#33
post #3

It's ironic that they are attempting to open source a model from "OpenAI".

I wish HN would stop devolving into Reddit. This comment is the same boring "joke" that has been repeated 100 times on every platform, and keeps being posted for karma. It adds nothing to the conversation.

Re: A path to O1 open source

#34
post #3

It's ironic that they are attempting to open source a model from "OpenAI".

There is no moat for OpenAI.

They spent a lot of money to find a lot of shallow gradients. Everyone else can climb those same gradients by putting in a little bit of money. Every single funded vertical and research org is proving this. Players in third place and below are incentivized to release their weights to develop an ecosystem around them. Meta and Tencent get to ensure the technology doesn't evolve beyond them by commoditizing their compliment and releasing stuff like Llama and Hunyuan for free.

Furthermore, OpenAI hasn't stumbled across a defensible moat. There's zero switching cost to move to another product, and they don't control any major panes of glass to stay as a default.

If OpenAI doesn't find a moat soon, they're gonna be cooked. The value of foundation models will plummet.

Re: A path to O1 open source

#35

It seems to me that for the most capable and useful models, openness almost exclusively benefits businesses, or maybe academic organizations with money for serious hardware. I know what I can run on my 4090 at home but the results pale in comparison to the commercial services. I see why people consider these matters important from a theoretical standpoint but from a practical standpoint it doesn’t seem particularly c…

I look at this as being for the reasonable hardware of the future. This is starting to look like actual AGI, and I don't think actual AGI is going to run on a 4090. But an H100 starts to sound like a mass-market product even with the $50k price tag if it actually can run an AGI.

Re: A path to O1 open source

#36
post #3

It's ironic that they are attempting to open source a model from "OpenAI".

I wish HN would stop devolving into Reddit. This comment is the same boring "joke" that has been repeated 100 times on every platform, and keeps being posted for karma. It adds nothing to the conversation.

> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. [0]

But also, if you want people to stop mocking "Open" AI, then maybe they should stop being such a mockable caricature of themselves.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: A path to O1 open source

#37
post #3

It's ironic that they are attempting to open source a model from "OpenAI".

I wish HN would stop devolving into Reddit. This comment is the same boring "joke" that has been repeated 100 times on every platform, and keeps being posted for karma. It adds nothing to the conversation.

I think it adds correct incentive to the public discourse so that you don't do bait and switch against public good will.
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