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Re: Orbit by Mozilla

#31
I installed it and it's a giant floating popup that's permanently on your screen. You can enable the "minimal" theme in the settings to turn it into a smaller-but-still-big pill shape. It doesn't look like there's a way to hide it in a context menu, at least not one I can see.

I don't fancy having a random floaty object in the way of my webpages, no thank you.

Edit: It appears to go away occasionally. This UX is unclear to me.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

#32
Why does Mozilla always spin their wheels releasing random side projects? Cloud-hosting an outdated tiny LLM that you can't swap out or run locally, to do basic summarization? This just doesn't feel like an area of strategic focus that makes sense for Mozilla. GPUs are expensive, talent to do inference well is expensive, and the actual product they're shipping seems pretty marginally useful at best.

If they shipped vertical tabs I'd probably switch back to Firefox. But that would require focusing on actual browser UX instead of random offshoots. What's their actual product differentiation from Chrome these days?

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

#35
A hosted service for this is underwhelming, especially with Chrome shipping on-device AI models and APIs that can also handle summarization.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mistral 7B has a context window of 32k. I use it in production for medical summarization tasks supporting appeals and physician advisory services.

Why are you confident to use such a tiny model on something so critical? I would never use anything smaller than a 70B model for anything even vaguely medical related!

A key thing to remember in this specific moment in history is that the vast majority of people will be as lazy as they can get away with being. People want to leave work and go home and if an LLM lets them do that faster, who cares if it's accurate? It can absorb the blame.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

#39

Why does Mozilla always spin their wheels releasing random side projects? Cloud-hosting an outdated tiny LLM that you can't swap out or run locally, to do basic summarization? This just doesn't feel like an area of strategic focus that makes sense for Mozilla. GPUs are expensive, talent to do inference well is expensive, and the actual product they're shipping seems pretty marginally useful at best. If they shipped v…

> What's their actual product differentiation from Chrome these days?

Not being the progenitor and linchpin of surveillance capitalism.

Re: Orbit by Mozilla

#40
I guess I'm really not this extension's target audience, because somehow Mozilla managed to make me uninstall it in just a few minutes.

First, they have forced telemetry. Okay, it's an early release, it's very basic information, they want to understand how they're doing - I don't like it, but I can understand it. Sets a wrong vibe, though - I had to check if it was from Microsoft and not Mozilla. ;-)

Then, I figured there is no option to use locally-hosted LLMs, which can be something as minimal as simply allowing to configure custom API URL. Somehow, less and less things about Firefox are tinkerer-friendly than they used to be.

That made me wonder if Mozilla used OpenAI-like API, or if they invented their own unique thing for some reason. So I went to look and according to the extension page, it's proprietary ("All Rights Reserved") and I'm too lazy to bother deminifying code from the xpi or remembering how to debug extensions.

Finally, '00s have called and said they wanted their weird floating round thingy UI back, and so I had to return it to the store. (I'm kidding, I don't really mind the visual style. The real issue with that thingy was how it floats on the page. Like, why on Earth it isn't normal right-click menu option that doesn't obstruct the view until it's needed? Or a menu on that toolbar button? It's not even a paperclip to be worth it.)

And then I realized I somehow missed the big "AI you can trust" header, which should've already been a huge red flag.

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