What happens to all those fake equity profit participation units that Open AI used to hand out?
Why OpenAI's Structure Must Evolve to Advance Our Mission
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#32> We view this mission as the most important challenge of our time.
Who buys this stuff?
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#33My read is:
“We’re going public because we want more money. We need more money for more computer time but that’s not all. ChatGPT has been so influential that we deserve a bigger share of the rewards than we have gotten.”
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#34Maybe I’m missing it in this article or elsewhere on the website, but how exactly is OpenAI’s vision of making AGI going to “benefit humanity as as a whole”? I’m not asking to be snarky or imply any hidden meaning…I just don’t see how they plan on getting from A to B. From this recent press release the answer seems to be: make ChatGPT really good and offer it for free to people to use. Which is a reasonable answer, I…
Well The Information reports that AGi really just means 100B profit for Microsoft and friends. So…
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#35The whole thing is a paper thin farce.
Strong principled stance until the valuations got big (helped in no small measure by the principled stance)…and then backtracked it when everyone saw the riches there for the taking with a little let’s call it reframing
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A non-profit structure seemed fitting, and we raised donations in various forms including cash ($137M, less than a third of which was from Elon) Saying "less than" is peculiar phrasing for such a substantial amount, but maybe some people believe Elon initially funded about all of it
It's plausible that, without Musk's less-than-a-third, nobody else would have put in any serious money.
It's not even remotely plausible.
Sam Altman is one of the most well connected people in Silicon Valley.
And investors like Reid Hoffman aren't having their lives being dictated by Musk.
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#37Makes better sense to me now. They should’ve said this a long time ago.
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#38Is everyone now believing that AGI is within reach? This scrambling to have a non profit based structure is odd to me. They clearly want to be a for profit company, is this the threat of Elon talking?
Open AI has build tools internally that scale not quite infinitely but close enough and they seem to have reached above human performance on all tasks - at the cost of being more expensive than hiring a few thousand humans to do it.
I did work around this last year and there was no limit to how smart you could get a swarm of agents using different base models at the bottom end. This at the time was a completely open question. It's still the case that no one has build an interactive system that _really_ scales - even the startups and off the record conversations I've had with people in these companies say that they are still using python across a single data center.
AGI is now no longer a dream but a question of if we want to:
1). Start building nuclear power plants like it's 1950 and keep going like it's Fallout.
2). Wait and hope that Moore's law keeps applying to GPUs until the cost of something like o3 drops to something affordable, in both dollar terms and watts.
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#39Our current structure does not allow the Board to directly consider the interests of those who would finance the mission and does not enable the non-profit to easily do more than control the for-profit. I kind of thought that was the point of the current structure.
They referring to the reconstructed board that solely exists to rubber stamp every Altman decision as officially great for humanity, so what do they care what the board's considerations are? They'll go along with literally anything.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's plausible that, without Musk's less-than-a-third, nobody else would have put in any serious money.
It's not even remotely plausible. Sam Altman is one of the most well connected people in Silicon Valley. And investors like Reid Hoffman aren't having their lives being dictated by Musk.
Mr. Altman is without a doubt well connected and a good guy.
However, Mr. Musk is continually called out by OpenAI in the public and OpenAI has quite the megaphone.