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38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by sneak »

hengheng wrote: post #20
sneak wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because people are good at English doesn't mean their English skills are up to giving a permanently-archived talk to tens of thousands of people at the 1st or 2nd most important hacker con on the planet. I'm all for giving a presentation in the language you're best at. Let machine translation (or manual translation) pick up the slack, not one person's possibly-mediocre ESL skills. I also can speak German but I a…

I'm a native speaker and I hate how people have been stumbling through their presentations, lacking basic vocabulary, being dragged along by their bullet points. It wasn't even the accent, it was that the language occupied their minds so much that they couldn't think about what they had to say or how they were saying it. Lots of talks felt like watching a ninth grader in front of the classroom. Now some of these guys…

This is the conference equivalent of "this meeting could have been an email" - "this talk could have been a blog post".

Perhaps you could do us all the service of making a blog post for each of the CCC talks this year? :D

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by [deleted] »

Y_Y wrote: post #9

I love watching CCC every years though I rarely catch it live. Since we have a couple of days to wait for this year's talk, I'll ask. Does it bother anyone else that some talks are in German, or does it bother anyone else that they find themselves bothered that the talks are in German? I love all languages great and small, natural and formal and so I'm conflicted on subjects like this. I find young German speakers to…

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Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by weinzierl »

sevg wrote: post #6
Zolomon wrote: post #5

The ticketing system was horrible, it really was not fair this year around.

Out of curiosity, what was horrible and unfair about it? (Genuine question, I don’t know anything about how it was done.)

From what I have heard it used to be quite easy to get tickets in the previous post-pandemic years. Before the pandemic and especially before Leipzig it used to be very hard sometimes.

Now is the first year that seems to me where demand picked up it was not a given to get a ticket. This might have contributed to find the system unfair.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by ognarb »

Eduard wrote: post #26
sevg wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, what was horrible and unfair about it? (Genuine question, I don’t know anything about how it was done.)

first come first serve principle on three occasions. refresh the browser a few milliseconds too late, and you will not be able to get a ticket. The "slide the slider" captcha is an accessibility barrier.

From their FAQ:

> I’m blind/I have problems with my visions and I can’t navigate your captcha.

> Please contact us.

https://events.ccc.de/congress/2023/infos/tickets.html#faq

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by jeffreygoesto »

ralfd wrote: post #25
dtquad wrote: post #10

38 years of advocacy for more degrowth and regulations in Europe.

Your snark is a bit unfair. But I also noted how far-left and anti-capitalistic many talks/speaker are. I guess it shows the power differential between US vs Europe/Germany and also the difference between disrupting American and risk-averse European culture? Super smart people in the Bay Area found startups to get rich (and invent the future). Super smart people in Germany can only go into academia and research how t…

Maybe it is a valid position to ask where the money for "get rich" comes from and if society would be different if it wasn't all about that money trickling upwards? Have you been to schools or nursing homes lately, having to let dear relatives go there?

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by pantalaimon »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #23
sevg wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, what was horrible and unfair about it? (Genuine question, I don’t know anything about how it was done.)

It's really a pretty strong web of trust system, if you know anyone who's volunteered previous years there are vouchers floating around by word of mouth. If you don't know anyone in the community, purchasing a ticket online is a crapshoot. IMO this is a feature not a bug.

It’s an inventive to volunteer

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by dingensundso »

Sebb767 wrote: post #29
hengheng wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a native speaker and I hate how people have been stumbling through their presentations, lacking basic vocabulary, being dragged along by their bullet points. It wasn't even the accent, it was that the language occupied their minds so much that they couldn't think about what they had to say or how they were saying it. Lots of talks felt like watching a ninth grader in front of the classroom. Now some of these guys…

> Please, CCC, don't send these people on a stage that they don't enjoy when you could also work with them to get their stuff across. The speakers are not selected by the CCC; they have to apply with a synopsis of their talk.

And then some of the talks they are selected.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by ahartmetz »

ralfd wrote: post #25
dtquad wrote: post #10

38 years of advocacy for more degrowth and regulations in Europe.

Your snark is a bit unfair. But I also noted how far-left and anti-capitalistic many talks/speaker are. I guess it shows the power differential between US vs Europe/Germany and also the difference between disrupting American and risk-averse European culture? Super smart people in the Bay Area found startups to get rich (and invent the future). Super smart people in Germany can only go into academia and research how t…

I'm not sure if the ones researching how to decolonize digital cat spaces are the super smart ones.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by pantalaimon »

dewey wrote: post #14
Zolomon wrote: post #5

The ticketing system was horrible, it really was not fair this year around.

If you are part of a hacker space you could always get tickets through that quite easily. I think it’s great that they are supporting their original core audience like that.

Those hacker spaces only get a limited contingent too, and the hacker space will expect you to help set up their assembly if you get the ticket through them.
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