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Re: Grayjay Desktop App

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Post by johan914 » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:39 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #28

IronWolve wrote: post #3

We always been missing good 3rd party search/trending for online videos. I've been using a youtube frontend called pockettube, where I could make lists(channels) for content I like, without youtube forcing me what to watch. Example. I have an Art and Food channels with my favorite content creators, I get to see the list in order of newest videos first, totally bypassing youtubes forced interface. In fact, if people s…

Finding content is so hard. All YouTube wants me to watch are "OMG YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT THIS COP DID" content. I have no idea why they want me to watch those videos, I never do and I block the videos and the channels from recommendations but they keep coming ... All I get are ads for weird suspect drugs and products, just going on these platforms is such a bad vibe.

YouTube has become especially horrific. It seems a couple years ago they gave up on video search- after 5 videos it will suddenly start recommending random videos under “you may like”. If I watch one UFC video I am flooded with recommendations of Joe Rogan, despite my subscriptions all being unrelated.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#32

Post by aidenn0 » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:41 PM UTC

nurettin wrote: post #29

xyst wrote: post #12

The modern day “Trillian” for video/musiv

The Trillian I knew was a jabber client

Jabber and AIM and ICQ and MSN messenger...

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

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Post by Joe_Cool » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:42 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #20

This feels like a central hub for media you like? I would assume these privacy claims would also include a ToS violation for the given platform? And then of course the user has given Grayjay a lot of info so privacy? Are they scraping the actual content too or just accessing it in some different way?

It doesn't use any API (at least the YouTube plugin). So they are (according to their lawyers) not bound to any TOS. All it does is open the page (like a browser) and grab it and only show stuff to the user that's "relevant".

You can check it yourself, while it is not "open-source" or "free" in the usual sense its source is available.

More details from Rossmann himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqTYg6vnQvw

edit: TOS not API

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

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Post by Joe_Cool » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:45 PM UTC

Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #14

Seems like a verry brittle setup. Since it adds adblock by default all this will do is make youtube crack down on adblock even more.

I thought so too when I started using the android version. I was surprised when GrayJay's Youtube plugin was promptly updated the same day Youtube broke it. NewPipe needed a few days to work again.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#35

Post by oaththrowaway » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:45 PM UTC

ethagknight wrote: post #30

This looks really interesting. Specifically I would love to be able to set up something like this for my kids so that I have control over what they are able to watch on YouTube. I want to offer my kids whitelisted shows and creator accounts. I know theres a lot of interesting and high quality stuff out there but I do NOT want YT recommending things to my kids without going through me first. Grayjay looks like it may…

I have NewPipe on my kid's tablets which is pretty good too, but it breaks more often. But it's great to have no ads + sponsorblock.

Between that and pirated shows/movies my kids are absolutely puzzled by commercials when we stay at a hotel or with family.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

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Post by foxbarrington » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:47 PM UTC

ethagknight wrote: post #30

This looks really interesting. Specifically I would love to be able to set up something like this for my kids so that I have control over what they are able to watch on YouTube. I want to offer my kids whitelisted shows and creator accounts. I know theres a lot of interesting and high quality stuff out there but I do NOT want YT recommending things to my kids without going through me first. Grayjay looks like it may…

This is the most maddening thing about all content now. It's all platform based and every platform wants to constantly push/"recommend" things to you and your kids. Right now I use Roku and Plex but even both of those are constantly trying to break down the wall.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

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Post by RandallBrown » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:50 PM UTC

ramon156 wrote: post #13

I don't get the motivation. You want to prevent doom-scrolling? I don't doom-scroll on Spotify, why is that there?

I think the point is to follow a creator. So if you like an artist, you'd follow them and get their Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, Twitch, etc. all in one place.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

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Post by RandallBrown » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:51 PM UTC

philsnow wrote: post #22

k3vinw wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol. Don’t hold your breath. I used to enjoy TikTok until they forced me to create an account and install their spyware.

What spyware? I don't have a tiktok account

Because TikTok is a Chinese company most people just consider the app to by spyware. It's probably not any more spyware than other similar apps, but being owned by China makes it a little more worrisome to some people.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

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Post by RandallBrown » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:52 PM UTC

nixass wrote: post #17

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That's sort of the point of this isn't it? Instead of having an app for every damn thing, you have one app.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

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Post by munificent » Fri, Dec 20, 2024, 6:52 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #28

IronWolve wrote: post #3

We always been missing good 3rd party search/trending for online videos. I've been using a youtube frontend called pockettube, where I could make lists(channels) for content I like, without youtube forcing me what to watch. Example. I have an Art and Food channels with my favorite content creators, I get to see the list in order of newest videos first, totally bypassing youtubes forced interface. In fact, if people s…

Finding content is so hard. All YouTube wants me to watch are "OMG YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT THIS COP DID" content. I have no idea why they want me to watch those videos, I never do and I block the videos and the channels from recommendations but they keep coming ... All I get are ads for weird suspect drugs and products, just going on these platforms is such a bad vibe.

My experience is that YouTube recommendations are heavily weighted based on my watch history. If I watch a single video on, say, videogames, all of a sudden my recommendations are all gamer stuff.

Fortunately, you can easily edit your watch history. I just go through mine periodically and remove any kind of video that I don't want recommendations related to. Doing that has given me a very dialed in recommendation feed. If anything, it's too dialed in, and I rarely get serendipitous recommendations.